In reality, long term in human evolution, a group, a tribe, or even a nation can get away with absolute power, for sever generations, but eventually the abuser who says "I know what is best for you, and I don't have to answer to you, and don't bite the hand that feeds you", eventually falls like an alpha male hippo who reaches old age and cannot fight the younger males any longer.
I defy any believer OF ANY RELIGION to name me one bad thing god has allowed that you would be willing to hold him to account for.
Now mind you, this is merely a thought experiment. I do not believe in ANY invisible friend. But just as a mental challenge to the believer to think without a hand up their backs.
For example, I have gotten lots of theist to admit, if they were God themselves, they WOULD NOT allow the nasty shit we observe in reality. To me that means that the believer has more morals than the god they claim.
MY POINT BEING, is that god claims explain nothing about nature or morality, AS CLAIMS, not as a provable reality.
In reality in the west in civil societies, WE VALUE holding our leaders to account. I find no morality in a CLAIM that postulates "I can do what I want and I don't owe you any explanation". Kim Jong Un says the same thing to his citizens. He feeds them too, not very well. Keeps all the glory for himself, cant be removed from office.
So unless the believer can name on bad thing they could charge god with a crime, either in direct or complicity, or neglect, it really makes the claim of a god absurd AND IMMORAL.
I am tired of the excuses "I can do what I want"
"I own you"
"You had a choice"
"I work in mysterious ways"
"I don't owe you an explanation"
"Obey me or else"
"It is your fault not mine"
And don't in this process of attempting to answer pull "You are saying humans are gods"
No, there is a third option.
"Humans are NOT gods and gods don't exist, humans merely make up gods"
Now again, I defy any believer to name me one thing they would be willing to hold their claimed god accountable for. You cant, and what is sick about that is that at the same time you hypocritically know you would not do it yourself if you were in the same position.
NOW AGAIN, this is a mental challenge to you, nothing more.
I defy any believer OF ANY RELIGION to name me one bad thing god has allowed that you would be willing to hold him to account for.
Now mind you, this is merely a thought experiment. I do not believe in ANY invisible friend. But just as a mental challenge to the believer to think without a hand up their backs.
For example, I have gotten lots of theist to admit, if they were God themselves, they WOULD NOT allow the nasty shit we observe in reality. To me that means that the believer has more morals than the god they claim.
MY POINT BEING, is that god claims explain nothing about nature or morality, AS CLAIMS, not as a provable reality.
In reality in the west in civil societies, WE VALUE holding our leaders to account. I find no morality in a CLAIM that postulates "I can do what I want and I don't owe you any explanation". Kim Jong Un says the same thing to his citizens. He feeds them too, not very well. Keeps all the glory for himself, cant be removed from office.
So unless the believer can name on bad thing they could charge god with a crime, either in direct or complicity, or neglect, it really makes the claim of a god absurd AND IMMORAL.
I am tired of the excuses "I can do what I want"
"I own you"
"You had a choice"
"I work in mysterious ways"
"I don't owe you an explanation"
"Obey me or else"
"It is your fault not mine"
And don't in this process of attempting to answer pull "You are saying humans are gods"
No, there is a third option.
"Humans are NOT gods and gods don't exist, humans merely make up gods"
Now again, I defy any believer to name me one thing they would be willing to hold their claimed god accountable for. You cant, and what is sick about that is that at the same time you hypocritically know you would not do it yourself if you were in the same position.
NOW AGAIN, this is a mental challenge to you, nothing more.
