(August 3, 2012 at 2:41 am)catfish Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Firstly;

Which part of this was not an answer to your rather dull question?

Secondly; your reply to what you believe is that you can cherrypick what you like which led us to this question.

Which you have failed to answer and have revealed in a rather insulting fashion that you have no intention to answer it.
Well I'm very sorry catfish but thats what is known in debating circles as a "full retreat".

It's not a retreat, it's called mercy.

But, since you seem to like having me point out your fallacies...
Again, you assert what my religion is based on. "No, thats the book your religion is based on."
As for you stoning law, I have addressed that in another thread, unless of course you wish to claim ignorance and deny that too.

Here's the question you have been avoiding:
"And for the record, the Bible actually supports "cherrypicking". Care to debate that fact too?"

Mercy? Please, you have the intellect of a yoghurt.

I know full well *parts* of the Bible support cherrypicking and *parts* of the Bible are dead against it, unlike you I've read the whole thing. Infact you'd be hard pressed not to find one part that didn't directly contradict another. If you were ok with cherrypicking, which most Christians seem to be when it suits them, you could more or less mix and match to make any belief system you want.

I notice you still didn't answer my question, incase you forgot what it was;
"Whats to stop you believing and doing what you want?"

Let me know when you've come up with an answer that isn't a deflection or a retreat won't you? :-)

Ya know Raph... Yoghurt everywhere will be insalted!

(August 3, 2012 at 8:54 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Ya know Raph... Yoghurt everywhere will be insalted!

And salted yoghurt is pretty yucky

Just thunkin....IF Hel / Hell is not real...I am going to be soooo disapoint

ALL the best bands are there along with ALL the greatest minds EVER!!

(August 3, 2012 at 9:03 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Just thunkin....IF Hel / Hell is not real...I am going to be soooo disapoint

ALL the best bands are there along with ALL the greatest minds EVER!!

But you forget, if hell doesn't exist they'd be in heaven... but then if theres no hell where do murderers, rapists and child molesters/priests go?

(August 3, 2012 at 9:51 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: But you forget, if hell doesn't exist they'd be in heaven... but then if theres no hell where do murderers, rapists and child molesters/priests go?

Who said they'd be in heaven?? Who said they would be anywhere?

As for me ALL people just die and are no more. I would love to think that when we die we are met by Terry Pratchett's DEATH and have to walk the desert alone.

As to Hel/ Hell... I am answering the OP Raph and the ridiculous nonsense that the theistic component of our illustrious board have commented upon.

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The REAL Hell...I think it is in Africa



Not soo scary after all eh?? Still wouldn't want to go swimming in it though

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Quote:“But you can’t be a scientist if you’re uncomfortable with ignorance, because scientists live at the boundary between what is known and unknown in the cosmos. This is very different from the way journalists portray us. So many articles begin, “Scientists now have to go back to the drawing board.” It’s as though we’re sitting in our offices, feet up on our desks—masters of the universe—and suddenly say, “Oops, somebody discovered something!”

No. We’re always at the drawing board. If you’re not at the drawing board, you’re not making discoveries. You’re not a scientist; you’re something else. The public, on the other hand, seems to demand conclusive explanations as they leap without hesitation from statements of abject ignorance to statements of absolute certainty.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson, Space Chronicles: Facing the Ultimate Frontier

The problem is not that a book tells you that hell is real,the problem is will you chose to believe it?

(August 3, 2012 at 2:41 am)catfish Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm)cato123 Wrote: That didn't answer my question.

You filled in the blank, so asking me "from what" is a moronic question.
Unless of course, you routinely give answers not fully understanding the question. (I suspect that's an affirmative there).

You suspect incorrectly. I recommend you learn what the Socratic method is.

(August 3, 2012 at 10:08 am)All Knowing Hippie Wrote: The problem is not that a book tells you that hell is real,the problem is will you chose to believe it?

Oh "Hell" is real.. like I said, it's in Africa err.....


http://geology.com/articles/east-africa-rift.shtml

It is a REAL place..the myths that have developed from this place are another thing entirely.

Quote:“When your reasons for believing something are justified ad hoc, you are left susceptible to further discoveries undermining the rationale for that belief.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson, The Pluto Files: The Rise and Fall of America's Favorite Planet

(August 3, 2012 at 10:16 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(August 3, 2012 at 10:08 am)All Knowing Hippie Wrote: The problem is not that a book tells you that hell is real,the problem is will you chose to believe it?

Oh "Hell" is real.. like I said, it's in Africa err.....


http://geology.com/articles/east-africa-rift.shtml

It is a REAL place..the myths that have developed from this place are another thing entirely.

Quote:“When your reasons for believing something are justified ad hoc, you are left susceptible to further discoveries undermining the rationale for that belief.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson, The Pluto Files: The Rise and Fall of America's Favorite Planet

oh yea africa also you forgot jamaica,alabama,...