(August 28, 2012 at 10:23 am)A Theist Wrote: ...and no. Your question is not relevant. Would you prefer the economy we have now or the one Obama promised we'd have by now?

YOU ANSWER MINE!!!!!

Dude. He did answer you. See?

(August 28, 2012 at 10:09 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Which economy would you prefer? The one we have right now or the one Obama promised we'd have by now, (by the end of his 'first' term)?

Quote:I'd prefer the ideal economy to the one we have now. Obama has been a disappointment. I fully concede that and always have. But Obama isn't running against my fantasy president. He's running against Romney. Romney's economic plan is Bush Part II.

I already answered your question. Obama is a disappointment. He has fallen short of what he promised to be.

You never answered mine and we both know why.

But you're such a brainwashed fucktard, pumped full of hate, fear and propaganda, that you can't get yourself to admit that conservative economic policies failed while Obama's, even as disappointing as they are, are far better.

They have different economic policies? News to me, here I was thinking they were both corporatist, bailout dealing, sell outs.

Romney wants to cut taxes on the rich in a kind of supply-side redux while not acknowledging that it didn't work before.

Supporting Romney is like going to a Robin Hood movie and rooting for the Sheriff of Nottingham.

Romney is still being secretive about his tax plans - other than saying he wants to "broaden the base" of the tax system.

It might be a secret from the Fox News crowd.... they can't handle the big words... but the NY Times ran this analysis earlier this month.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/12/opinio...-math.html

Quote: For example, Mr. Romney wants to keep all the Bush tax cuts, then cut taxes much further, particularly for the rich, but he says the plan won’t grow the deficit by a dime. He won’t say how he will accomplish this — there are no real numbers in his plan beyond a vague pledge to eliminate some loopholes. The Joint Committee would take one look at his substance-free plan and say, we can’t work with this.

Mr. Romney’s tax proposal is no different from any other aspect of his economic plan. He promises to cut nondefense spending by 5 percent, but won’t tell voters what programs that will affect. He wants to repeal all of President Obama’s regulations that burden the economy, but won’t say which ones. And he pledges to eliminate health care reform, but won’t discuss how or even whether he would replace it.

Earlier this month, a nonpartisan group of tax experts took matters into their own hands and tried to analyze the tax plan. What would happen, they asked, if you actually made all the cuts he has proposed? That would mean extending the Bush cuts, reducing income-tax rates by an additional 20 percent, and ending capital gains taxes for the middle class, the estate tax, the alternative minimum tax and the various taxes in health care reform, including the Medicare tax increase on high incomes. The experts at the Tax Policy Center estimated that this would cost $456 billion a year, starting in 2015.

One can't blame Romney for trying to hide the details..... What magician ever wants to explain his tricks?

(August 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm)Tobie Wrote: Romney is still being secretive about his tax plans - other than saying he wants to "broaden the base" of the tax system.

He's also praised the budget proposal of his running mate, though, and said his would be about the same. The Ryan plan is easy enough to criticize and we know enough about it to judge whether we want it or not, right?

Quote:other than saying he wants to "broaden the base" of the tax system.

That's republicunt code for "taxing the income of the poor."

Let's face it, no one has a magic "cure the economy" plan, but let's hope that the american populace aren't idiotic enough to vote in someone that is reverting to the tried and tested George Bush Technique for ruining an economy.

(August 28, 2012 at 4:10 pm)Tobie Wrote: Let's face it, no one has a magic "cure the economy" plan, but let's hope that the american populace aren't idiotic enough to vote in someone that is reverting to the tried and tested George Bush Technique for ruining an economy.

Shocking as it is for me, 45% of my fellow voting Americans will vote Republican even if they were to run Satan as their nominee. Remember 2004. Take nothing for granted.