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Fundamentalist Trekkies....
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 (September 21, 2012 at 10:53 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I don't understand the hate for the prequels. They were just as stupid as the originals. Jar Jar Binks and an hour of the worst romance scenes I have ever seen.
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 (September 21, 2012 at 11:05 pm)Polaris Wrote:(September 21, 2012 at 10:53 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I don't understand the hate for the prequels. They were just as stupid as the originals. Bah, Jar Jar Binks is hardly different than 3CPO or R2D2. Just another comic relief character.
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September 22, 2012 at 2:57 am
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Quote:[/quote](September 21, 2012 at 5:37 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:(September 21, 2012 at 5:17 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Star wars one to three would have been better if there was less boring meetings and sitting and more Jedi vs Sith action. First off I am not a Trekkie and I never watched the originals, Secondly I said Grow to people who can't take me walking all over Star Trek, what are you Islamic? Thirdly I did not really care for the twenty-something angst, I liked the modernization of the tech, ok needed more mature actors, but it was a modern film who do you expect. It will never be a classic. and The Script was ok. I am guessing you feel about this film the same way I felt about Bayformers (the Transformers Trilogy) (September 21, 2012 at 10:24 pm)Polaris Wrote:Lucas it destroying is best work and the prequel could have been something but they fucked it, they felt rushed and incomplete and please somebody fire Haydon.(September 21, 2012 at 10:16 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: The only thing wrong with the three festering piles of crap Lucas called "prequels" is they needed to be totally scrapped and re-written. And then executed with a better casting choice for Anakin. Other than that... (September 21, 2012 at 11:08 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:(September 21, 2012 at 11:05 pm)Polaris Wrote: Jar Jar Binks and an hour of the worst romance scenes I have ever seen. No, just no. 3CPO and R2D2 are legends and are a funny and work well as a duo. Where as on the other hand Jar Jar Blinks is annoying, unfunny and somebody you would want to punch. He is a crappy waste of screen time and money which could have been used to improve the prequels, at least by a little bit. I am sure Star Trek has a unnecessary annoying character that everybody hates.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence." -- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103). (September 22, 2012 at 3:09 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:(September 22, 2012 at 2:57 am)Gooders1002 Wrote: ... I give you the Jar Jar Blinks of Star Trek
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies: Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain 
It takes a sexless jar jar addict to lump George Lucas's CGI with a real human female.
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September 22, 2012 at 11:58 am
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(September 21, 2012 at 10:16 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(September 21, 2012 at 5:17 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Star wars one to three would have been better if there was less boring meetings and sitting and more Jedi vs Sith action. Then you're in luck. I know I've mentioned this before but it's well worth bringing up again. I give you Star Wars: Revisited. A bloke known only as Adywan has taken the original Star Wars and re-edited it to correct the colour issues with the commercial releases, undo most of the worst excesses of the Special Editions, fix continuity errors, tighten some scenes especially the Death Star battle - generally give the film a wash and brush up. A full list can be seen here (plus he uses the Third Doctor and Sarah as his avatar - he can do no wrong in my eyes). He plans on doing all six films and for the prequels has promised less Jar Jar, C-3PO not even apearing until Revenge let alone being built by embryo Vader, and much more. (September 21, 2012 at 10:24 pm)Polaris Wrote: The only thing that should have been done was to have him take no part in their production. The only thing that spoiled the prequels is that Lucas got old. I don't mean that old people can't make good films but the original SW was born in the fire and angst of a young filmmaker trying to break into the mainstream. (September 21, 2012 at 11:08 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Bah, Jar Jar Binks is hardly different than 3CPO or R2D2. Just another comic relief character. It should be pointed out that Artoo and Threepio were, at least initially, more than simply comic relief. They were intended to echo the two peasant characters of Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress which provided much of the model for Star Wars. The idea was to show all the huge drama of war and battles etc from the viewpoint of the lowliest characters in the story.
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Actually, something's been bugging me about the two films disembowelled in this thread; after a little digging I now know what it is:
Abrams'-Trek Star Wars!
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September 22, 2012 at 7:18 pm
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(September 22, 2012 at 6:57 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Actually, something's been bugging me about the two films disembowelled in this thread; after a little digging I now know what it is: Well, that's not too surprising since Abrams has openly and gleeful talked about bringing Star Wars style action into Star Trek, which in of itself I don't mind. Star Trek has always had action, but it was action that was never really presented as thrilling or as big as in Star Wars. It's a bit much to say that the Star Trek film was directly copied from Star Wars though because most of those similarities you'd find in many movies, and stories (including ancient stories).
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence." -- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
You speak of the Hero's Journey. The original Star Wars trilogy worked to that format, in fact the films made it quite famous. Abrams is on record as not particularly being a fan of Star Trek and preferring Star Wars instead. I'm not saying that Abrams directly copied from Lucas' opus, just that Abrams'-Trek is the Islam to Star Wars' xtianity; the same basic story in a new suit.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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