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Again....But it's never the guns!
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 RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
December 23, 2012 at 11:15 am
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2012 at 11:18 am by Cinjin.)
(December 23, 2012 at 10:59 am)Napoléon Wrote: I reckon 80-90 people die each year on hunting exercises because the deer got mad. Nothing to do with guns. lol ... snarky comment of the day.  ![[Image: angrydeeri128559836375901785.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.chzbgr.com%2Fcompletestore%2F2008%2F5%2F22%2Fangrydeeri128559836375901785.jpg) ![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTFHgsOxjTtoTEuQmRDWa...GmflTXYtPw]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=t3.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcQTFHgsOxjTtoTEuQmRDWamyCxZsfvrze9-FIklmXNSrlyAguItGmflTXYtPw) ![[Image: Evolution.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk619%2Fjcincain%2FPublic%2FEvolution.png) 
Isn't it odd how all the fucking jesus freaks want people walking around with machine guns?
Guess you all think your 'god' was a real pussy for this "turn the other cheek" horseshit. How do you manage to cherry pick your alleged "scriptures" to get out of that one? ![[Image: jesus-nra-card.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.harikari.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F06%2Fjesus-nra-card.jpg)
 (December 23, 2012 at 10:58 am)Aractus Wrote:Then maybe you would like to explain why multitudes more die in traffic accidents each year than by hunting accidents, or why more people die annually from alcohol related deaths than all the drug and gun related deaths combined....Surely if all drivers were driving responsibly and all consumers of alcohol were drinking responsibly there would be 0 traffic related deaths and 0 deaths by alcohol, correct?....but we weren't talking about accidental deaths were we?(December 23, 2012 at 10:48 am)A Theist Wrote: "massacres will still take place using bolt-action rifles, shotguns and handguns...The public shouldn't have automatic or semiautomatic assault rifles, and taking them away is a step in the right direction, but the entire gun-culture in America needs to be addressed."...Timothy McVeigh murdered 168 people and wounded another 800 people in the Oklahoma City bombing by using a mixture of a common farming fertilizer and racing fuel....there's no gun culture to address...the left looks naively just to more regulation on guns as if that's the cure all to end violence...what needs addressed is what would motivate a person in the first place to commit murder like this, as well as the mental state and the environment impressing an unstable person...this rush to heavily regulating, and or banning guns without addressing the other factors isn't going to solve anything...Then perhaps you'd like to explain why each year in the USA 80-90 people die in hunting accidents? Surely if all the hunters were using their guns correctly and responsibly there would be 0 hunting deaths, correct?
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
![[Image: freddy_03.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=s25.postimg.org%2Fuq1y7aapr%2Ffreddy_03.jpg) Quote: JohnDG... Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.  (December 23, 2012 at 10:59 am)Napoléon Wrote: I reckon 80-90 people die each year on hunting exercises because the deer got mad. Nothing to do with guns. Many die for the same reasons inexperienced backpackers get themselves killed.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
  (December 23, 2012 at 10:48 am)A Theist Wrote: "massacres will still take place using bolt-action rifles, shotguns and handguns...The public shouldn't have automatic or semiautomatic assault rifles, and taking them away is a step in the right direction, but the entire gun-culture in America needs to be addressed."...Timothy McVeigh murdered 168 people and wounded another 800 people in the Oklahoma City bombing by using a mixture of a common farming fertilizer and racing fuel....there's no gun culture to address...the left looks naively just to more regulation on guns as if that's the cure all to end violence...what needs addressed is what would motivate a person in the first place to commit murder like this, as well as the mental state and the environment impressing an unstable person...this rush to heavily regulating, and or banning guns without addressing the other factors isn't going to solve anything... Since 100% of mass murders are not done using guns, any attempt to regulate guns won't eliminate 100% of violence and we should therefore do nothing. It's not naive to look at guns as a major part of the problem when guns are obviously a major part of the problem. The presence of a gun in the home was associated with a nearly fivefold risk of suicide and an almost threefold risk of homicide. RE: Again....But it's never the guns!
December 23, 2012 at 10:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2012 at 10:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Correlation/causation. I suppose I should be dead by now judging by the amount of firearms in my home. For some strange reason I stubbornly refuse to commit homicide or suicide. Naive isn't exactly the word I'd use for this one......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Quote:Correlation/causation. I see you and raise you one Appeal to Experience, as I made no claim that it is a guarantee. ; )
Ah, I see, so the gun bit isn't a guarantee? I bet we can guarantee that human beings are involved in 100% of homicides and suicides. It's almost as though we're trying to implicate a hammer for the crime of driving a nail.....rather than the man who swung it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (December 23, 2012 at 11:33 am)A Theist Wrote: Then maybe you would like to explain why multitudes more die in traffic accidents each year than by hunting accidents,Don't you require that people hold a current driver's license to drive? Why not implement an equitable system with owning firearms? 1. require people to renew their license after every 1 or 2 years by passing a safety test, 2. require that anyone owning firearms or using them to also have a current first aid certificate (renewed every 3 years or whatever the situation is in the USA with first aid accreditation). When you do that, then you're allowed to compare it to cars. Quote:or why more people die annually from alcohol related deaths than all the drug and gun related deaths combined....And people eat their way to an early grave too, what's your point? |
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