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**CapnAwesome** · January 22, 2013 at 10:19 am

What the hell is Idicoy?

**Cyberman** · (This post was last modified: January 22, 2013 at 10:25 am by Cyberman.)

I assumed he thinks we're all mixed-race Gypsy travellers and meant to say "didicoy". I hope so, because that actually makes more sense than anything he wrote.

**Napoléon** · January 22, 2013 at 11:22 am

I'd much rather be an idiot atheist than an asshole theist.

Strongbad · January 22, 2013 at 1:49 pm

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote:

The arguments presented by Atheists are so illogical and hypocritical, that it's hard to imagine whether they are sane or not.

An atheist will deny or reject the teachings in religious scriptures and say that they are unsound or false because religious scriptures are made up of folklore and myths. They also state that saying a religious scripture is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.

But watch this. Ask any atheist about evoultion and what is there proof? They themselves refer to textbooks themselves as proof and claim that evolution is true for the same reasons why religious call their scriptures true. "Because it says so". That shows not only complete hypocrisy, but refutes the claim that evolution is true because according to atheists themselves, claiming something is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.

It doesn't end there though. To defend that foolish claim, they say that it's not based on say so. They say that the science has been peer-reviewed, analyzed, and witnessed, observed and tested, so it's a fact.

But watch this. How do you know that it's been witnessed, peer-reviewed, and analyzed, observed and tested? "Because it says so". Hahah. They defend their faulty logic with the same faulty logic.

Therefore, since all atheist claims and alleged evidence that evolution is true or God does not or may not exist is based on "because a book says so" and cannot even present evidence that the authors are speaking truthfully, then they have no logical reasoning to deny any religious scripture as truth when it's based on the same type of evidence for evolution as true, which is, "because a book says so".

The idiocy of atheists exposed.

**DeistPaladin** · January 22, 2013 at 2:21 pm

I think this is also a classic ad hominem tu quoque.

"You have faith too, just in science".

Except of course that science is based on observable facts and repeatable tests.

**Minimalist** · January 22, 2013 at 2:28 pm

(January 22, 2013 at 7:06 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(January 22, 2013 at 6:56 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: In other words, you still cannot refute anything stated, thus supporting the fact atheist logic is idiotic. Thanks for he clarification.

Response: Find out from your science book and get back to me.

I want to know what you believe.

He believes whatever the chief towel head tells him to believe.

**Mister Agenda** · (This post was last modified: January 22, 2013 at 3:26 pm by Mister Agenda.)

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: The arguments presented by Atheists are so illogical and hypocritical, that it's hard to imagine whether they are sane or not.

For example?

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: An atheist will deny or reject the teachings in religious scriptures and say that they are unsound or false because religious scriptures are made up of folklore and myths. They also state that saying a religious scripture is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.

Saying ANYTHING that is written is true because it says it is true is faulty logic.

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: But watch this. Ask any atheist about evoultion and what is there proof? They themselves refer to textbooks themselves as proof and claim that evolution is true for the same reasons why religious call their scriptures true. "Because it says so". That shows not only complete hypocrisy, but refutes the claim that evolution is true because according to atheists themselves, claiming something is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.

We don't only refer to textbooks. We can refer you to the papers they're based on. We can refer you to the scientists who did the work. We can direct you to fossil dig sites, genetic laboratories, and botanical and zoological fieldwork. The only thing we can't do is understand it for you.

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: It doesn't end there though. To defend that foolish claim, they say that it's not based on say so. They say that the science has been peer-reviewed, analyzed, and witnessed, observed and tested, so it's a fact.

That doesn't make it a fact, just well-supported. What makes it a fact is the accumulated evidence of well over a century.

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: But watch this. How do you know that it's been witnessed, peer-reviewed, and analyzed, observed and tested? "Because it says so". Hahah. They defend their faulty logic with the same faulty logic.

We have years of accumulated posts here. I dare you to find one where an atheist says they know the evidence has been witnessed, peer-reviewed, and analyzed, observed and tested 'because the source says so'. And EVEN if you found a profoundly stupid atheist to say something like that, it's still faulty logic, and it still applies to religious texts: a source saying it's true doesn't make it true.

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Therefore, since all atheist claims and alleged evidence that evolution is true or God does not or may not exist is based on "because a book says so" and cannot even present evidence that the authors are speaking truthfully, then they have no logical reasoning to deny any religious scripture as truth when it's based on the same type of evidence for evolution as true, which is, "because a book says so".

Lots of theists accept the evidence that evolution is true, it's not an atheist theory, it's a scientific theory. However, if every atheist believed in it for illogical reasons, it wouldn't make believing the words of a religious text are true because they say they are, logical. It would just mean we're abusing logic as badly as you are.

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: The idiocy of atheists exposed.

At least you spelled 'idiocy' correctly that time.

Cato · January 22, 2013 at 3:44 pm

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: But watch this. Ask any atheist about evoultion and what is there proof? They themselves refer to textbooks themselves as proof and claim that evolution is true for the same reasons why religious call their scriptures true. "Because it says so".

How many times were you dropped on your head as an infant?

~~Al-Fatihah~~ · (This post was last modified: January 22, 2013 at 4:00 pm by Al-Fatihah.)

(January 22, 2013 at 7:20 am)Metallica Wrote: Yeah, of course, believe that a god creates everything, is omnipotent, guides or misleads who he wants but condemn the non believers... believe that a fucking ass hole who fucked a 9 years old girl is a ideal man to follow make perfect sense...

Response: Now you're geting it.

(January 22, 2013 at 7:34 am)Insanity x Wrote:
(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: The arguments presented by Atheists are so illogical and hypocritical, that it's hard to imagine whether they are sane or not.
Which arguments in particular?

I imagine some are sane and some are not. Thats just how large groups of people work..

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: An atheist will deny or reject the teachings in religious scriptures and say that they are unsound or false because religious scriptures are made up of folklore and myths. They also state that saying a religious scripture is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.

Which religious scriptures should we even accept? They all make equally ridiculous claims. Maybe Scientology has it right or even Pastafarianism.

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: But watch this. Ask any atheist about evoultion and what is there proof? They themselves refer to textbooks themselves as proof and claim that evolution is true for the same reasons why religious call their scriptures true. "Because it says so". That shows not only complete hypocrisy, but refutes the claim that evolution is true because according to atheists themselves, claiming something is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.

I've found and looked at fossils myself and my parents and bus driver use fossil fuels. Also at my university I had a set of lectures that provide many different evidences.

Even if evolution were wrong it wouldn't make your magic book any more valid. It would still be on the same proof level as Harry Potter apart from J.K. Rowling is honest about it being a story.

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: It doesn't end there though. To defend that foolish claim, they say that it's not based on say so. They say that the science has been peer-reviewed, analyzed, and witnessed, observed and tested, so it's a fact.

You prefer no systematic and fact based evidence? The thing about science is that you can repeat what they do and find the same thing out for yourself.

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: But watch this. How do you know that it's been witnessed, peer-reviewed, and analyzed, observed and tested? "Because it says so". Hahah. They defend their faulty logic with the same faulty logic.

Actually because I went to school and was taught science class. I recreated many experiments at school to show how the scientific method works. I also have met researchers here at Uni that show what they did, how they did it and what they found out. Rather than "Hey I wrote this down it must be true"

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Therefore, since all atheist claims and alleged evidence that evolution is true or God does not or may not exist is based on "because a book says so" and cannot even present evidence that the authors are speaking truthfully, then they have no logical reasoning to deny any religious scripture as truth when it's based on the same type of evidence for evolution as true, which is, "because a book says so".

* Insanity x sighs

You seem to have written more or less the same thing in 3 paragraphs..

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: The idiocy of atheists exposed.

Oh and I must ask, what quran passage taught humans how to go into space or how to make PC's?

Response: You can't present any evidence here that shows that evolution is true, without referring to a textbook saying that it's true. Period. Until you do, your rant is a waste of time and only confirms the idiocy of atheism.

(January 22, 2013 at 3:53 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(January 22, 2013 at 7:20 am)Metallica Wrote: Yeah, of course, believe that a god creates everything, is omnipotent, guides or misleads who he wants but condemn the non believers... believe that a fucking ass hole who fucked a 9 years old girl is a ideal man to follow make perfect sense...

Response: Now you're geting it.

(January 22, 2013 at 7:34 am)Insanity x Wrote: Which arguments in particular?

I imagine some are sane and some are not. Thats just how large groups of people work..

Which religious scriptures should we even accept? They all make equally ridiculous claims. Maybe Scientology has it right or even Pastafarianism.

I've found and looked at fossils myself and my parents and bus driver use fossil fuels. Also at my university I had a set of lectures that provide many different evidences.

Even if evolution were wrong it wouldn't make your magic book any more valid. It would still be on the same proof level as Harry Potter apart from J.K. Rowling is honest about it being a story.

You prefer no systematic and fact based evidence? The thing about science is that you can repeat what they do and find the same thing out for yourself.

Actually because I went to school and was taught science class. I recreated many experiments at school to show how the scientific method works. I also have met researchers here at Uni that show what they did, how they did it and what they found out. Rather than "Hey I wrote this down it must be true"

* Insanity x sighs

You seem to have written more or less the same thing in 3 paragraphs..

Oh and I must ask, what quran passage taught humans how to go into space or how to make PC's?

Response: You can't present any evidence here that shows that evolution is true, without referring to a textbook saying that it's true, or prove any aithor claiming it's true is actually speaking the truth. Period. Until you do, your rant is a waste of time and only confirms the idiocy of atheism.

(January 22, 2013 at 9:51 am)TaraJo Wrote: Hey, Muslim boy! Do you know why you need a new flu shot each year? I'll give you a hint: it inolves evolution.

Response: Nope. Try again.

Cephus · January 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm

(January 22, 2013 at 6:31 am)Al-Fatihah Wrote: An atheist will deny or reject the teachings in religious scriptures and say that they are unsound or false because religious scriptures are made up of folklore and myths. They also state that saying a religious scripture is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.

I've never seen an atheist say any of that. In fact, it sounds like you have things exactly backwards. Speaking only for myself, I reject teachings in religious scriptures solely based on the evidence or lack thereof. If it has no external evidence to support the claims, I reject the claims as unsupported. That is the standard I apply to *ALL* claims, not just the religious.

And yes, accepting a statement, any statement as true, just because it claims to be true is logically faulty, it's circular reasoning.

I think you need to stop treating scripture as though it's magical and shouldn't be evaluated by the same rules we use for everything else.

Quote:But watch this. Ask any atheist about evoultion and what is there proof?

Seriously? Are you trolling? It's hard to believe anyone could be this blatantly ignorant of reality.

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