(January 25, 2013 at 9:12 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I find it interesting that our ('western'?) criminal Justice systems are based on the religious concept of forgiveness. The irreligious answer to injustice is the chopping off of hands/ tit for tat vigilante type justice. There is no real justification I can see in a secular court for forgiveness. I can see that falling apart as society loses its religion. It is unsustainable. Thoughts?

Yeah. I have some thoughts.

Your concept of forgiveness (I quess by victims) is absent in my western justice court system. That sort of stockholm syndrome behaviour is irrelevant for the punishment. Civilized countries have a secular justice system, no cutting hands of there.

(January 25, 2013 at 9:22 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Interesting yeah. I felt a difference when I became a Christian in my regard for the law. I felt it was serving me rather than being under threat of it. Fear is what rules the guilty.

I've never really felt under the threat of law. Besides a once or twice when I was a kid. Mostly because of what people did on my completely messed up street...

(January 25, 2013 at 9:22 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Why are we good? I've never been bad. I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't have profited me more and toy with the idea of being bad to get what bad people have, if that makes sense.

I sometimes think the same way. I never really did anything bad. Sometimes I wonder how awesome I would be as a bad guy.

Are you all saints by the way?

Lust-Gluttony-Greed-Sloth-Wrath-Envy-Pride.

These sins look very familiar to me.

(January 25, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Are you all saints by the way?

Lust-Gluttony-Greed-Sloth-Wrath-Envy-Pride.

These sins look very familiar to me.

Sins and laws arent even close to the same thing. I'm just not really into the things that end in me breaking the law. I tend to stay in and play games and drink energy drinks. Its hard to break the law doing that.

(January 25, 2013 at 9:40 pm)Insanity x Wrote:

(January 25, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Are you all saints by the way?

Lust-Gluttony-Greed-Sloth-Wrath-Envy-Pride.

These sins look very familiar to me.

Sins and laws arent even close to the same thing. I'm just not really into the things that end in me breaking the law. I tend to stay in and play games and drink energy drinks. Its hard to break the law doing that.

And you're not a hacker

Breaking the law Breaking the law tu du du dududu du dudu.

(January 25, 2013 at 9:45 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: And you're not a hacker

Breaking the law Breaking the law tu du du dududu du dudu.

Nope, never hacked.

I've been accused plenty of times. I'm just a beast.

pride

(January 25, 2013 at 9:40 pm)Insanity x Wrote: I tend to stay in and play games and drink energy drinks. Its hard to break the law doing that.

Personal piracy is pretty much overlooked

(January 25, 2013 at 9:48 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Personal piracy is pretty much overlooked

I would never do such a thing

I have netflix now so has been a while.

(January 25, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Are you all saints by the way?

Lust-Gluttony-Greed-Sloth-Wrath-Envy-Pride.

When not on a job: I'm sloth.

How do you do?

(January 25, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: Lust-Gluttony-Greed-Sloth-Wrath-Envy-Pride.

Yeah my list looks a lot like this:

Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy, Pride

I have all of them

It just depends what mood I'm in which ones you get.