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January 14, 2013 at 8:23 am (This post was last modified: January 14, 2013 at 8:35 am by Sciworks.)
I think this is worth putting in as a new thread, sometimes trolls spam threads with abuse instead of commenting on content.
There is absolutely no evidence that Jesus is nothing but a story corrupted from previous stories. 'Christ' actually comes from two supposed Roman documents which were actually written (copied?) by Christian monks in the Medieval period. One of those shows a clear forging of the the name Chrestianos to Christianos. There are no original documents around the time in existence that mention Jesus or Christ.
So.... if you are going to believe anything those biased monks wrote, then you also have to believe that Chrestus led a rebellion against Claudius. Jewish temples were not just places of worship then, they were banks and held gold and money for lending. That is why, around that time, Roman emperors and governors, like Agrippa II (Herod 2) had trouble with the priests, who were in effect the bankers of their time.
It is written that Chrestus led an uprising, it was probably about money, interest rates or something else that Claudius wanted to impose on the bank.
Then, 20 years later, Nero blamed the Chrestians for burning part of Rome. We have all been told how bad Nero was, but in fact he wanted a better deal for the poor and this probably enraged the Jewish bankers (he called them Chrestians, as named from the Chrestus uprising 20 years before) who set fire to some of the city.
Chrestus and his followers were persecuted and put to death in the arena, they were probably Jewish bankers and certainly had nothing to do with mythical 'Christians' which is just a corruption of Chrestionos, followers of Chrestus.
If you think I am being anti-Semite, the fact that Jewish temples were used as banks is written online in Jewish wikkis on Jewish sites.
RE: Why do atheists even bother about debating Jesus?
January 14, 2013 at 8:25 am (This post was last modified: January 14, 2013 at 8:26 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(January 14, 2013 at 8:23 am)Sciworks Wrote:
I think this is worth putting in as a new thread, sometimes trolls spam threads with abuse instead of commenting on content.
There is absolutely no evidence that Jesus is nothing but a story corrupted from previous stories. 'Christ' actually comes from two supposed Roman documents which were actually written (copied?) by Christian monks in the Medieval period. One of those shows a clear forging of the the name Chrestianos to Christianos. There are no original documents around the time in existence that mention Jesus or Christ.
So.... if you are going to believe anything those biased monks wrote, then you also have to believe that Chrestus led a rebellion against Julius Caesar. Jewish temples were not just places of worship then, they were banks and held gold and money for lending. That is why, around that time, Roman emperors and governors, like Agrippa II (Herod 2) had trouble with the priests, who were in effect the bankers of their time.
It is written that Chrestus led an uprising, it was probably about money, interest rates or something else that Julius Caesar wanted to impose on the bank.
Then, 20 years later, Nero blamed the Chrestians for burning part of Rome. We have all been told how bad Nero was, but in fact he wanted a better deal for the poor and this probably enraged the Jewish bankers (he called them Chrestians, as named from the Chrestus uprising 20 years before) who set fire to some of the city.
Chrestus and his followers were persecuted and put to death in the arena, they were probably Jewish bankers and certainly had nothing to do with mythical 'Christians' which is just a corruption of Chrestionos, followers of Chrestus.
If you think I am being anti-Semite, the fact that Jewish temples were used as banks is written online in Jewish wikkis on Jewish sites.
What do you think?
I think you need to spend time viewing the entire site for similar threads as this has been dealt with numerous times over the past three+ years
Try the Christianity section sweetie
Oh and and enjoy your stay
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
RE: Why do atheists even bother about debating Jesus?
January 14, 2013 at 11:52 pm
(January 14, 2013 at 8:23 am)Sciworks Wrote: I think this is worth putting in as a new thread, sometimes trolls spam threads with abuse instead of commenting on content.
There is absolutely no evidence that Jesus is nothing but a story corrupted from previous stories. 'Christ' actually comes from two supposed Roman documents which were actually written (copied?) by Christian monks in the Medieval period. One of those shows a clear forging of the the name Chrestianos to Christianos. There are no original documents around the time in existence that mention Jesus or Christ.
So.... if you are going to believe anything those biased monks wrote, then you also have to believe that Chrestus led a rebellion against Claudius. Jewish temples were not just places of worship then, they were banks and held gold and money for lending. That is why, around that time, Roman emperors and governors, like Agrippa II (Herod 2) had trouble with the priests, who were in effect the bankers of their time.
It is written that Chrestus led an uprising, it was probably about money, interest rates or something else that Claudius wanted to impose on the bank.
Then, 20 years later, Nero blamed the Chrestians for burning part of Rome. We have all been told how bad Nero was, but in fact he wanted a better deal for the poor and this probably enraged the Jewish bankers (he called them Chrestians, as named from the Chrestus uprising 20 years before) who set fire to some of the city.
Chrestus and his followers were persecuted and put to death in the arena, they were probably Jewish bankers and certainly had nothing to do with mythical 'Christians' which is just a corruption of Chrestionos, followers of Chrestus.
If you think I am being anti-Semite, the fact that Jewish temples were used as banks is written online in Jewish wikkis on Jewish sites.
What do you think?
Fascinating. I have never heard such a thing. Do you have good links and references that you can point me to?
RE: Why do atheists even bother about debating Jesus?
January 29, 2013 at 12:01 pm
(January 15, 2013 at 12:25 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:What do you think?
I don't mind fucking with the jesus freaks. None of their arguments surprise me anymore.
This would be a dull place without a few fanatics.
It would, wouldn't it.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6
RE: Why do atheists even bother about debating Jesus?
January 29, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Right you are!
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6
Are you ever going to address statements made by nonbelievers that refute your beliefs, or are you just going to keep ignoring their assertions completely? I'd like to know, seriously. Save me some time and finger power.
~Missy~
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
and enjoy your stay
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