Just patterns. Relax man. Your brain loves to place order even when their is no correlation. But it is cool pictures thanks for sharing.

The brain has that specific pattern because the pattern relates to the function of conscious. Therefore the universe must be doing the exact same thing, an application of pure reasoned deduction there.

I wouldn't mind if the universe has some semblance of consciousness.

(February 7, 2013 at 12:44 pm)Zone Wrote: The brain has that specific pattern because the pattern relates to the function of conscious. Therefore the universe must be doing the exact same thing, an application of pure reasoned deduction there.

This doesn't strike me as being even remotely true. (And yes, I'm guessing you're being sarcastic here.) While it's not entirely clear what the biological prerequisites of consciousness are, or even what its parts necessarily might be, it does appear fundamental that whatever brain features contribute to the existence of consciousness, all of them lie at a higher level, structurally, than that of the microscopic features of clumps of brain cells. Nuclei appear to play a fundamental role in the logical structure of the brain, but it's not even clear there as to whether that's a necessary feature of the biological architecture or just an artifact of the way we describe the brain.

(February 7, 2013 at 12:44 pm)Zone Wrote: The brain has that specific pattern because the pattern relates to the function of conscious. Therefore the universe must be doing the exact same thing, an application of pure reasoned deduction there.

Your "reasoned" deduction seems to be "I am as totally ignorant of one as I am of the other, therefore the two must be similar to each other in any manner I can to shit out of my ass"

Well if the human brain has a function derived from it's structure then then perhaps the structure of the universe (there does seem to be a structure there, it isn't random chaos with galaxies all over the place in no apparent order) also serves a function of some kind. Seems plausible enough to me, why not? I'm not sure if you could make a new religion out of this though.

(February 7, 2013 at 3:07 pm)Zone Wrote: Well if the human brain has a function derived from it's structure then then perhaps the structure of the universe (there does seem to be a structure there, it isn't random chaos with galaxies all over the place in no apparent order) also serves a function of some kind. Seems plausible enough to me, why not? I'm not sure if you could make a new religion out of this though.

The structure and function of the human nervous system came about as a result of an infinite number of feed back from an infinite number of evolutionary selections. If it didn't broadly come to "function" from whatever coincidence needed to make it "function", it didn't survive. While it didn't survive, a trillion other permutations came about to each to similarly tested. The web like arrangement of synapses around each neuron is the most superficial of the reason why the nerve system that works actually functions.

There is no evidence whatsoever of evolutionary selection having driven the formation of the galaxy clusters. There is nothing driving the cluster towards "function". Besides the superficial resemblence in its layout, the web of galaxy clusters does not share in the least any of the rest of the more important reasons why a nerve system funcitons.

This is why it is not plausible.

Look a little deeper, than most of what seemly romantically plausible is seen to be bullshit. But you get a startling reward - that that seem plausible after a deeper examination now actually has a real chance of being plausible, and not just a child's doddle.

(February 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Chuck Wrote: The structure and function of the human nervous system came about as a result of an infinite number of feed back from an infinite number of evolutionary selections.

Perhaps the universe is a product of something very similar, you don't know.

(February 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Chuck Wrote: The web like arrangement of synapses around each neuron is the most superficial of the reason why the nerve system works.

There's a web like arrangement to the universe as well, it involves the distribution of dark matter. What is dark matter? We don't know.

(February 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Chuck Wrote: There is no evidence whatsoever of evolutionary selection having driven the formation of the galaxy clusters.

Evolution would have moulded the brain into it's size, shape and functionality as whole over time so perhaps the universe as we know it was moulded in some equivalent but yet unknown process.

(February 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Chuck Wrote: Besides the superficial resemblence in its layout, the web of galaxy clusters does not share in the least any of the rest of the more important reasons why a nerve system works.

Structurly there seems to be a level of organisation both the human brain and the universe as a whole. It's not just pattern recognition from randomness as there definite structure there. I'm sure there's a good explanation for it the same as there is an explanation for the human brain and why that has a structure.

(February 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Chuck Wrote: Anything he can dream up seems plausible to one who does not ground his imagination to any depth in reality, but flitter only by the most impulasively chosen parts of the most superficial layer.

At the same time you can't really say the universe is just a random formation without structure. It has structure comparable to magnified neurons in the brain.

Comparable in what way? That it looks similar to your self-styled critical eye, or that it contains parts that actually does similar functions?

That you don't know does not give your license to take your own bullshit seriously, much less trying to convince others to do so.

(February 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Chuck Wrote: Comparable in what way? That it looks similar to your self-styled critical eye, or that it contains parts that actually does similar functions?

It appears compossed of a web like lattice structure with connecting nodes, areas of density where numerous strands of the filament meet.



The universe could have been a random chaos of galaxies with no particular structure at all.

(February 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Chuck Wrote: That you don't know does not give your license to take your own bullshit seriously, much less trying to convince others to do so.

You don't have license to pretend that the structure you see is just a figment in the human mind either. It's clearly is an objective physical reality you can visually see. It isn't the same thing as the face on Mars as it isn't pattern we recognise.