So? Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?

what do you think of this debate?

http://youtu.be/d5OMNPmoVAw

No. Systematically propagating the lie that God saves through Jeebus can't ever be seen as a good thing for the world. People deserve intellectual freedom as opposed to a ball & chain that religion binds you with.

There is no entity on earth - save maybe the republicunt party - that is a bigger bunch of pricks than the church.

(February 27, 2013 at 1:18 am)Minimalist Wrote: There is no entity on earth - save maybe the republicunt party - that is a bigger bunch of pricks than the church.

think it is going to dismantle any time soon?

Quote:Is the catholic church a force for good?

No. That would be America's Navy.

:P



"Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble."
Joseph Campbell

(February 27, 2013 at 1:33 am)Nobody Wrote:

Quote:Is the catholic church a force for good?

No. That would be America's Navy.

:P



"Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble."
Joseph Campbell

MURICA!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!

http://youtu.be/nfK9UPEQavo

(February 27, 2013 at 1:09 am)justin Wrote: So? Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?

Yes.

* Charity provider.

* Soul food and comfort for spiritual people. (Human need. Psyche)

* Defender of the Ten Commandments. (Social cohesion)

* Long-standing, mainstream institution forming an integral part of our deeply-rooted human culture of religion and traditions. (Religion is culture. Much like our inherent love of music, painting, cuisine, etc.) Try taking it away!

* Historical forerunner of the modern city/nation State. Provider of education, national security, rule of law.

* Historical patron of science.

* Willing to justify their faith with reason rather than fundamentalism or violence.

* And any evils done by wayward or pretending catholics hiding in the clergy (eg. atheists, pedophiles, etc) can be clearly demonstrated as unbiblical, anti-Christian and heretical.

(February 27, 2013 at 2:01 am)Lion IRC Wrote:

(February 27, 2013 at 1:09 am)justin Wrote: So? Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?

Yes.

* Charity provider.

* Soul food and comfort for spiritual people. (Human need. Psyche)

* Defender of the Ten Commandments. (Social cohesion)

* Long-standing, mainstream institution forming an integral part of our deeply-rooted human culture of religion and traditions. (Religion is culture. Much like our inherent love of music, painting, cuisine, etc.) Try taking it away!

* Historical forerunner of the modern city/nation State. Provider of education, national security, rule of law.

* Historical patron of science.

* Willing to justify their faith with reason rather than fundamentalism or violence.

* And any evils done by wayward or pretending catholics hiding in the clergy (eg. atheists, pedophiles, etc) can be clearly demonstrated as unbiblical, anti-Christian and heretical.

read these as your response was ordered.

charity giver- does that mean that all the bad things are ignored becuase they gave money? no.

soul food and comfort for spiritual- so? people who worship kim jong il say it brings them comfort. does that mean he is a force for good? no.

ten commandments suck. we don`t need it for morals nor did we ever, nor is it moral.

culture changes and progressess. religions doesn`t.

so was hitler. it is what they taught, ruled, and and how they judged who to protect etc. both suck at all of these

galileo may disagree.

doesn`t make it good nor does this mean they succeed. prove a god then we will talk.

stop saying stupid shit.

The Catholic Church is a force for (it's own) good.

Quote:Historical patron of science.

Tell that to Galileo.