(November 11, 2009 at 9:34 am)Dotard Wrote:

(November 11, 2009 at 7:10 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Porn has a really skewed view of sex........The last thing you want is your children looking at porn and get the impression that that is the normal way to do it.

It's not the 'normal' way? So I have been having abnormal sex all my adulthood?

I don't know, have you?

(November 11, 2009 at 9:34 am)Dotard Wrote: Tell me leo, what is the "normal" way of having sex? And how are you defining this 'normality'?

Are you being serious here Dotard? Are you honestly telling me that the way mainstream porn depicts sex is normal? Porn has always been in the business of realizing fantasies. It's their bread and butter.

"Mainstream porn" is hollow, dirty, poor quality, non-genuine, and often just plain boring. Damn... that sounds a lot like 'normal' sex

It really does depend on what you mean by 'normal'...

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(November 11, 2009 at 10:02 am)Meatball Wrote: Picking up girls in a van, ejaculating on their faces, and dropping them off surely isn't normal.

Pornography typically doesn't reflect the love and personal connection that usually goes into sex. It actually moves in the opposite direction.

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Pornography is abnormal in that sense.

Love and personal connection usually goes into sex? You mean to disclude prostitutes, brothels, on-night-stands, and the like then?

Yes.

See: Usually

I was (and still am) of the impression that such things as brothels remain in business because they typically receive customers.

See: Usually

??? Usually = typically = normally.

What is your point here???

(November 11, 2009 at 7:10 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Porn has a really skewed view of sex. It is not the way for children to learn about sex. In the vast majority of mainstream porn the women are just seamen containers to be used and discarded when you are done. The last thing you want is your children looking at porn and get the impression that that is the normal way to do it.

Like I said before, did we do a test of 100 children? 50 viewing porn for their whole childhood, and 50 not viewing porn for a year? Then waiting for them to grow up and take the results of their lives?? No, we haven't. So we don't know if it will impression them or not. We don't know. I mean, if they're 4, they're not even interested in girls yet, much less sex. Children will start feeling the need for sex at about the age of 12 or 13. This is where they're rational and not so easily impressionable. It won't teach them that rape is good, or having tensomes is awesome. It'll just relieve them from sexual tension built up in their bodies; they know movies and TV shows are all fake (except for those documentaries, but who has a documentary on pornography?).

(November 11, 2009 at 5:17 pm)Saerules Wrote: ??? Usually = typically = normally.

What is your point here???

Brothel sex doesn't make up anything close to a majority of the human sexual experience. When I say love and personal connection are USUALLY part of having sex, I specifically used that word because I am aware that there are exceptions.

That aside, a lot of people DO go to brothels for personal connections. Ever hear of a GFE? People aren't just paying for an orgasm.

Edit: GFE = 'Girlfriend Experience' It's common in professional brothels and escort services. You're paying the escort not just to have sex with you, but to hang out, talk, have sex, cuddle, the whole 9 yards.

(November 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote:

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(November 11, 2009 at 7:10 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Porn has a really skewed view of sex. It is not the way for children to learn about sex. In the vast majority of mainstream porn the women are just seamen containers to be used and discarded when you are done. The last thing you want is your children looking at porn and get the impression that that is the normal way to do it.

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Like I said before, did we do a test of 100 children? 50 viewing porn for their whole childhood, and 50 not viewing porn for a year? Then waiting for them to grow up and take the results of their lives?? No, we haven't.

And what do you do if it does have an impact on those 50 that did watch porn? You don't do human test "just to see what might happen". And for good reason. If there is an aftermath to deal with you end up being responsible for ruining peoples lives.

(November 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: So we don't know if it will impression them or not. We don't know. I mean, if they're 4, they're not even interested in girls yet, much less sex. Children will start feeling the need for sex at about the age of 12 or 13. This is where they're rational and not so easily impressionable.

You have no idea how impressionable these children are at that age. It is the age where children first experience peer pressure, where they start doing things to fit in. Where kids do things they would usually do not. The last thing on their minds is rationality.

(November 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: It won't teach them that rape is good, or having tensomes is awesome. It'll just relieve them from sexual tension built up in their bodies; they know movies and TV shows are all fake

And you think kids need porn to get rid of that? Come on. Children have gotten by for centuries without porn to masturbate.

(November 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: (except for those documentaries, but who has a documentary on pornography?).

I do. Several.

(November 11, 2009 at 5:44 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

(November 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote:

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(November 11, 2009 at 7:10 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Porn has a really skewed view of sex. It is not the way for children to learn about sex. In the vast majority of mainstream porn the women are just seamen containers to be used and discarded when you are done. The last thing you want is your children looking at porn and get the impression that that is the normal way to do it.

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Like I said before, did we do a test of 100 children? 50 viewing porn for their whole childhood, and 50 not viewing porn for a year? Then waiting for them to grow up and take the results of their lives?? No, we haven't.

And what do you do if it does have an impact on those 50 that did watch porn? You don't do human test "just to see what might happen". And for good reason. If there is an aftermath to deal with you end up being responsible for ruining peoples lives.

(November 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: So we don't know if it will impression them or not. We don't know. I mean, if they're 4, they're not even interested in girls yet, much less sex. Children will start feeling the need for sex at about the age of 12 or 13. This is where they're rational and not so easily impressionable.

You have no idea how impressionable these children are at that age. It is the age where children first experience peer pressure, where they start doing things to fit in. Where kids do things they would usually do not. The last thing on their minds is rationality.

(November 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: It won't teach them that rape is good, or having tensomes is awesome. It'll just relieve them from sexual tension built up in their bodies; they know movies and TV shows are all fake

And you think kids need porn to get rid of that? Come on. Children have gotten by for centuries without porn to masturbate.

(November 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: (except for those documentaries, but who has a documentary on pornography?).

I do. Several.

1. Exactly. So why do you say that they're impressionable by pornography automatically if it hasn't been tested?

2. Considering I'm 14, and only a year off from 13, I know how impressionable they are at that age. I have seriously perverted friends; it's not like I go around smacking people's asses and ejaculate all over their faces. None of my friends do anything rudely sexual, either... And I also have plenty of friends who watch porn (one of my friend's dad lets him watch pornography, actually... And it hasn't done anything abnormal except for an increase in knowledge of sex and the certain positions you can get into it for sex, also more funny sex jokes and we all know we need more of those).
Also, you're being extremely stereotypical... I don't care what sort of social group I'm in. Nor do my friends, or my enemies, or acquaintances... And that right there is about 100 of 1300 students in my school. It's just a be nice to everyone or a be mean to everyone kinda school. So rationality comes often.

3. Watching porn is far better than imagining porn... Let's face it, today's preteens and teens don't have imagination anymore...

4. ... I did not know that...