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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 10:47 am
(May 21, 2013 at 10:34 am)goodnews Wrote: God will save ALL His people, yes, even the ones here on this forum who hate Him, and the ones who say they love him, yet choose to believe the evil doctrins of men, instead of these scriptures below
1 Timothy 2:4 + 2:6 + 4:10
Philippians 2:9-11
Ephesians 1:10
1 Corinthians 3:15 + 15:22 + 15: 26 & 28
11 Corinthians 5:18-19
John 3:17 + 12:32
1 John 2:2 + 4:14
etc etc there is no hell, how can there be, as we are ALL TO BE SAVED ! go figar
You clearly have not spent adequate time with your special book. John 3:16 and 3:36 pretty much lay waste to the idea of Universalism.
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 10:59 am
(May 21, 2013 at 10:37 am)Faith No More Wrote: Perhaps you should work on your delivery then, because it definitely appears that way. Can we see a handful of examples?
Quote:Haha...touché, however, my point was that you are unconcerned with the effect that constantly droning on about how we deserve hell produces.
Of course I'm unconcerned about the effects your own droning on has on you. If it has a negative effect...stop droning on about it.
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 11:01 am
You clearly have not spent adequate time with your special book. John 3:16 and 3:36 pretty much lay waste to the idea of Universalism.
Oh really, pray tell how ? [/b
ps: who said anything about Universalism ?
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 11:19 am
(May 20, 2013 at 3:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: Everything you said is not found in scripture, please refrain from hearsay and use the Bible's content to prove your point, if you can't do that for any reason I will never consider what you say.
Will you just FUCK OFF?
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 11:21 am
(May 21, 2013 at 10:59 am)John V Wrote: Can we see a handful of examples?
A handful? Nah, I don't have that much energy, but here's a good one from this thread.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-18801-po...#pid447109
(May 21, 2013 at 10:59 am)John V Wrote: Of course I'm unconcerned about the effects your own droning on has on you. If it has a negative effect...stop droning on about it.
Are you willfully being that stupid, or can you just not help it?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 11:51 am
(May 21, 2013 at 11:01 am)goodnews Wrote: You clearly have not spent adequate time with your special book. John 3:16 and 3:36 pretty much lay waste to the idea of Universalism.
Oh really, pray tell how ? [/b
ps: who said anything about Universalism ?
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You probably should have looked up Universalism before replying. It would have saved you from looking like a fucking idiot.
Universalism is the idea that everyone will be saved by God; your exact fucking argument.
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 11:52 am
(May 18, 2013 at 10:36 pm)Godschild Wrote: (May 18, 2013 at 9:50 am)Faith No More Wrote: It's not a gamble to bet something that doesn't exist.
Regardless, if my soul is worth so much, why would god send it to hell simply for not believing?
God does not send you to hell for not believing, one goes to hell for unrepentant sin. By the way it is you who chooses your finial place in eternity.
Your god is still a total dick. My guess is that you have created him in your own image.
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 12:09 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 11:51 am)cato123 Wrote: You probably should have looked up Universalism before replying. It would have saved you from looking like a fucking idiot.
I figure the way he mangled something as simple as bold tags took care of that.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 12:12 pm
You say John 3:16 + 3:36 lays waist to Universalism, If you expect me to go study the doctrins of this sect of Christianity so I can find out why these verses are contradictory to their belief system, I am sorry but I have not the disire, so why dont you explain it, as you seam to know so much ?
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RE: Poor Fundies.....Hell is A Literary Construct, Too!
May 21, 2013 at 12:21 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 12:12 pm)goodnews Wrote: You say John 3:16 + 3:36 lays waist to Universalism, If you expect me to go study the doctrins of this sect of Christianity so I can find out why these verses are contradictory to their belief system, I am sorry but I have not the disire, so why dont you explain it, as you seam to know so much ?
Typical, ignorant Christian needing an atheist to explain what's written in his/her own special rule book.
16 and 36 specifically require belief in Christ for salvation. Not doing so invites the wrath of God and the non-believer will perish. You have to ignore this to claim that non-believers will be saved.
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