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What's your problem with christianity?
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 (May 24, 2013 at 12:21 pm)goodnews Wrote: I understand perfectly, any atheist that discusses and is taught theorys associated with atheism is according to the dictionary a person of religion. and therefore religious. What theories are associated with atheism? Please inform us. I've been an atheist all my life and I've never once come across one aside the lack of belief in god(s).  RE: What's your problem with christianity?
May 24, 2013 at 1:45 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2013 at 1:46 pm by downbeatplumb.)
Not another ATHEISM IS A RELIGION thread.
Why must they try and drag us down to their level? You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  (May 24, 2013 at 10:59 am)goodnews Wrote:(May 24, 2013 at 10:44 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Religion Saying its so doesn't make it so. This isn't a flock of christian sheep you're talking to. Try to remember to use the word "..because.." and give reasons for your assertions. Otherwise, why bother? No one here on the atheist site agrees with you and you've given us no reason to think otherwise. Oh wait is it what you really, really, really believe? Well that doesn't cut it either. RE: What's your problem with christianity?
May 24, 2013 at 1:56 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2013 at 1:57 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(May 24, 2013 at 1:45 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Not another ATHEISM IS A RELIGION thread. You just haven't been reading your atheist holy book enough. Consult page...9? I think that's got something on it. Or failing that, talk to your local minister, she should be able to perform a ritual that gets you closer to atheist god. RE: What's your problem with christianity?
May 24, 2013 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2013 at 1:58 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 24, 2013 at 1:45 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Not another ATHEISM IS A RELIGION thread. Because they realize that "their level" is equivalent to dogshit- just as easily as we do...and they want to insult us.
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(May 24, 2013 at 11:39 am)goodnews Wrote: Discussing = 1. exchange opinions about 2. debate / atheist forum's Ahah, then you are a troll. This is not something a reasonably bright person could reason to in earnest. Ergo you misrepresent and are correctly called a troll. You deserve no further considered responses unless you can convince me you're not just a troll on a lark (i.e., an asshole).  (May 24, 2013 at 1:26 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:The closest people that do that are the Atheism+ crowd. But they themselves say that their agenda and ideology are atheism plus humanism and skepticism and whatnot, hence the name.(May 24, 2013 at 12:21 pm)goodnews Wrote: I understand perfectly, any atheist that discusses and is taught theorys associated with atheism is according to the dictionary a person of religion. and therefore religious.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
 (May 24, 2013 at 12:23 pm)gitonga Wrote:Festive Wrote:It's called the Council of Nicea. Let's assume the books of the Bible were devinely inspired by god. The Council of Nicea decided which books would be included in the bible. This happened in the 7th century. There were many books that didn't make the cut. How do we know the entire Council was devinely inspired? What if they chose the wrong books? Were the books they left out devinely inspired? If so, isn't that bad? If not, how did they differentiate between which books were Devine and which were not? Then the Church decided to destroy all the other books that didn't make the cut... Why? If they weren't Devine, how would they pose a threat. This is, in part, why the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls was so important, they are parts of one of these books that didn't make the cut. Furthermore, this was for the original Church, which split into Catholic and Orthodox, many Protestant sects deny the "Christian-ness" of these churches, yet they are the ones who chose which books all those Protestant sects were eventually based on. That's just problematic. The Kudos is for actually tackling the question. How to say this politely... Read what you wrote... You were "told" they had a "process" for figuring out the Canon... I'm not one to develop a complete system of belief based solely on what one person tells me. If I'm going to make the leap of faith that god exists, I want to know how we know about him => the bible => how was the bible created? Simply saying they had a "process" doesn't explain said process or explore possible problems within that process. Exploring possible issues with a system is necessary for rational thought. Only when these issues are brought to light can one discern if they are negligible or truly problematic. Your response, while I give you credit for actually tackling the issue, is unsatisfactory. 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
Atheism is not a religion in any way at all. Every atheist arrives at their disbelief by themselves. In fact, atheism is more of a side effect of higher education and intelligence. It is not taught in any capacity. Critical thinking and evaluation are taught and they are used by atheists but these techniques are also used by many other people, they are not exclusive to atheism. And what exactly is this crap about Richard Dawkins being our leader. There is no leader in atheism, there is no governing body of any kind. There is no high authority when it comes to atheism. The only thing that every atheist agrees on is that there is not enough evidence to support the claim that there is a god.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  RE: What's your problem with christianity?
May 24, 2013 at 2:48 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2013 at 2:49 pm by goodnews.)
If you atheists do not like being called a religion , your dispute is not with me, but with the interpretation of a dictionary suplied by one of your own bretheren. I have given my views on religion, being the same found in the scriptures, many times, but oddly, it would seem that, it helps not your cause, when you learn the scriptures reffer to religion as the abomination of the earth, mens doctrins as plagues, the mother church as the Great whore and all the churches that came from it harlots. If there is anyone on this forum who should be opposed to being called religious its me, however I dont get offended, its only a word and many of the atheists here call me names far worse, for no reason, but then I used to steal, pouch and deal drugs on the streets of Cape Town and spend time in dark places where profanity is a language and pure evil a means of survival, so my hide is prehaps not as soft as some go figar
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