Quote:Yes a large part of MS’s argument is a strawman. His understanding of evolution is poor at best.

That's what happens when you waste too much of your time memorizing the fucking koran in a madrassa.

god the one trick pony, carrying simple design flaws into later species, for shame !!! The courts are going to have a field day with this one.

(June 1, 2013 at 9:27 am)SiRade Wrote: Seriously? You'll have to do some serious refuting. Well, to start, could you explain what the fuck is happening between our legs? I mean who puts entertainment complex in middle of sewage system?

Neil deGrasse Tyson, is that you?

(June 3, 2013 at 10:04 pm)cato123 Wrote:

(June 1, 2013 at 9:27 am)SiRade Wrote: Seriously? You'll have to do some serious refuting. Well, to start, could you explain what the fuck is happening between our legs? I mean who puts entertainment complex in middle of sewage system?

Neil deGrasse Tyson, is that you?

Neil didn't come up with this, nor did I. That's just a problem every male has to face ;/ Not just humans, but also other species.

(June 2, 2013 at 6:07 am)orogenicman Wrote: Why would a god create a situation where 1 in 13 have apelike feet? Also, why do you assume that 1 in 13 having apelike feet is evidence that one, and ONLY one god was at work?

It is the will of God that we are created with diseases, a limited life span, etc.

Quote: Why not one god to create the sinew, one to create the bones, one to create the muscles, one to create the vascular system, one to create the nervous system, etc, etc, etc?

Because they will need to coordinate with each other before that, the method of communication must be created before them as well.

Quote: what it is the evidence that ONLY one did so?

Read my proof of God existence!

Quote:if we are created in god's image

Wrong statement taken from Christianity
We are not created in God's image or similar to him, God is unique and nothing can be similar to him.

Quote: I don't just want logic. I want tangible evidence. Got anything like that?

I already gave you a proof of god existence, as of Why, I also proved that it is impossible to know Why God do things.

Just as it is impossible for you to prove it.

(June 9, 2013 at 4:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:

(June 2, 2013 at 6:07 am)orogenicman Wrote: Why would a god create a situation where 1 in 13 have apelike feet? Also, why do you assume that 1 in 13 having apelike feet is evidence that one, and ONLY one god was at work?

It is the will of God that we are created with diseases, a limited life span, etc.

So basically you never have to explain any rebuttal to your argument of design ever now, huh?

You intellectual derelict...

(June 9, 2013 at 7:51 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(June 9, 2013 at 4:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is the will of God that we are created with diseases, a limited life span, etc.

So basically you never have to explain any rebuttal to your argument of design ever now, huh?

You intellectual derelict...

Were you expecting something different?

This guy is your typical apologist, no clue about what he is refuting.

Yet he bulls on regardless, ignoring all evidence or facts.

I for one, can't be bothered with his crap.

This thread feels like Sunday School.

orogenicman Wrote:Why would a god create a situation where 1 in 13 have apelike feet? Also, why do you assume that 1 in 13 having apelike feet is evidence that one, and ONLY one god was at work?

Muslim Scholar Wrote:It is the will of God that we are created with diseases, a limited life span, etc.

First of all, that is not an answer to my questions, particularly neither involve disease nor mortality. Secondly, even if my questions did involve disease and mortality, it is a typical religious cop out, a lazy answer, one that offers no evidence but expects us to simply trust in faith. It is lazy for man need not strive to find truth, but it is handed down from above: 'All things are known to God and all man needs to do is apply and follow these laws which are made known by individual revelation from God to man.' Utter friggin bollox.

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orogenicman Wrote:Why not one god to create the sinew, one to create the bones, one to create the muscles, one to create the vascular system, one to create the nervous system, etc, etc, etc?

Muslim Scholar Wrote:Because they will need to coordinate with each other before that, the method of communication must be created before them as well.

So you are saying that GOD(S) aren't GODS after all? So much for omnipotence.

orogenicman Wrote:what it is the evidence that ONLY one did so?

Muslim Scholar Wrote:Read my proof of God existence!

I have no intention of reading someone's treatise. A short synopsis will do.

orogenmicman Wrote:if we are created in god's image

Muslim Scholar Wrote:Wrong statement taken from Christianity
We are not created in God's image or similar to him, God is unique and nothing can be similar to him.

First of all, the notion that Man was created in God's image does not originate from Christianity. It came out of Judaism, and likely earlier religious traditions of the region. Secondly, what is unique about your god, and why can nothing be similar. Also, what would that imply?

orogenicman Wrote:I don't just want logic. I want tangible evidence. Got anything like that?

Muslim Scholar Wrote:I already gave you a proof of god existence, as of Why, I also proved that it is impossible to know Why God do things.

Wow, two cop outs at once. I'm impressed. Look, I don't want a treatise. A simple one or two paragraph response will suffice.

Secondly, if it impossible to know why your god does things, then how is it possible that people are always told of his will, and of things that are ascribed to god. When the 2004 earthquake and tsunami struck Banda Aceh, it was the Muslims who claimed that Allah was punishing Man for all his sins. Ironically, they didn't explain what all the animals and forests had done to earn god's wrath. Now, if it is impossible to know why god does things, then what you are telling me is that the Muslims who made those claims were lying and simply made it up. I agree completely that that was the case, but it doesn't make a good argument that the Muslims who made those statements are honest people.