(June 5, 2013 at 3:33 pm)apophenia Wrote:

(June 5, 2013 at 11:48 am)Drich Wrote: “Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

I answered the video in a format in which the average atheist member is looking for a christian to respond. One that displays emotion and back with enough 'fact' to beg a legitmate response, but not so much as to to completely overwhelm/show my hand.

From this initial volley I get to decide (based on who responds and how they wish to approach the subject) how deep we need to go. Why do I do this? Because Aside from you, there have been no takers. Only personal attacks with little to no content concerning the actual topic.

I suspect it is because of my orginal assessment. Video watchers and quotes are not invested enough in thier own arguements to care. If there is to be a dialog it has to look like something one can be apart of with out a whole lot of effort.

That said if you want to go miniute by minute on each and everyone of these videos then I'll be happy to drop the pretense and put it all out there. Just know my efforts will mirror your own. Meaning so long as you are involved at 100% I too will give my best.

You're a liar, in addition to being a clueless wannabe. I doubt you're actually capable of artful deception, guile and manipulation. You're just making shit up to cover your ass.

No I will not engage you in an exchange of responses in kind because you are not capable of responding in kind. I respond with intelligence and well researched points, you respond with error ridden crap. It's not a fair exchange, and I'm not going to waste my time doing it. You lack the judgement, education, intelligence, and talent to engage in such a discussion. You're just another Dunning-Kruger who is not sufficiently competent to recognize that he's not sufficiently competent. Discussing the bible and Christianity with you is a waste of time because you believe yourself competent to discuss the subject, but you are not. So all that such discussions involve is correcting your mistakes, dealing with your obnoxious personality, and tracking down innumerable red herrings.

You are not worth the time.

You maybe right, or you might be wrong... If you were right then it must have been just a coincidence that I had that obscure Sun Tzu quote on hand.. Or maybe I stumbled upon it out of the blue, and it just so happened to fit this discussion to a tee. Or maybe yet again, someone fancies herself to be artful intellect, and has been caught off guard by a "lying retard's" use of a very old, very reliable tactic employed by wise men and tacticians alike, to ensnare overly confidant, even an artfully boastful opponents, by their own prideful short comings.. (in this case) forcing said 'artful/graceful intellect' in the abandonment of the actual subject matter, and redirecting her efforts to damage control. Resulting in grammar school name calling. For it seems to be paramount to be seen as a pride intact intellect, than a graceful dummy who was apparently bested by a guy who can't spell..

...Now all that is left is my turn to be "truly disappointed in your efforts here." For if I were a liar and a dummy, it would be far more convincing for you to take my rebuttle argument down line by line and reveal in practice and in truth that I was indeed, who you believe me to be. But, that is not what you did. You lost full composure the moment you were informed you were not speaking to the person you sized me up to be, and rather than take the hit to your pride. you did what every other common person does when one's pride based imaged is threatened... You try and trivialize and dismiss your opponent through name calling, and hope your peer status carries enough weight to help you rally support in your name calling campaign, rather than address the content that would actually prove your claim.

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Again maybe your right and I am just a simple minded fool trying to cover my ass.

(June 6, 2013 at 1:23 am)Drich Wrote: ...Now all that is left is my turn to be "truly disappointed in your efforts here." For if I were a liar and a dummy, it would be far more convincing for you to take my rebuttle argument down line by line and reveal in practice and in truth that I was indeed, who you believe me to be. But, that is not what you did. You lost full composure the moment you were informed you were not speaking to the person you sized me up to be, and rather than take the hit to your pride. you did what every other common person does when one's pride based imaged is threatened... You try and trivialize and dismiss your opponent through name calling, and hope your peer status carries enough weight to help you rally support in your name calling campaign, rather than address the content that would actually prove your claim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUFV2c_vcU

Quote:We can prove George Washington existed but no sane person would claim he could fart a Lamborghini out of his ass. No sane person would claim he could cure blindness or heal an amputee.

True but within 20 years of his death there were stories floating around that he threw a silver dollar across the Potomac and that he never told a lie.

Upon death, claims can be made about the dearly departed that cannot be verified or disqualified because the only one who could have proven the rumor has long passed. Convenient. Is it wise to believe the rumor or is it more reasonable to disqualify it?

At least George Washington...unlike fucking jesus...was a real man. Some of the stories, those of Parson Weems - including the cherry tree and silver dollar horseshit - are harmless but suppose someone took The Apotheosis of Washington seriously?

Quote:Painted in 1865 by Constantino Brumidi, the Apotheosis of Washington in the eye of the U.S. Capitol Rotunda depicts George Washington rising to the heavens in glory, flanked by female figures representing Liberty and Victory/Fame and surrounded by six groups of figures.

Note, again...just to annoy Drippy... the motif of the dead hero rising to heaven. Looks like that bullshit never went out of style, eh?

(June 6, 2013 at 2:12 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:We can prove George Washington existed but no sane person would claim he could fart a Lamborghini out of his ass. No sane person would claim he could cure blindness or heal an amputee.

True but within 20 years of his death there were stories floating around that he threw a silver dollar across the Potomac and that he never told a lie.

(June 6, 2013 at 2:53 am)Minimalist Wrote: Note, again...just to annoy Drippy... the motif of the dead hero rising to heaven. Looks like that bullshit never went out of style, eh?

Ha, there are people who still believe that Elvis is alive!