Ya gotta give him credit, his protest sign isn't misspelled. But I'm betting if you ask him what a Marxist is you'd probably get a blank stare.

(June 10, 2013 at 1:27 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(June 10, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote: In some people the mind does not survive birth.

Ooh he has a pen clipped to his tea shirt in case he has a thought he just has to write down.

I wish I had the chance to do that.

On another note, that guy is embarrassing Vikings.

Have to go for "no" as well. When the brain stops it all stops.

Passed out once in my life. Got up to go for a pee. Fainted immediately on finishing and landed on a pile of towels (incredibly lucky).

The feeling of warmth, comfort and safety on the way down was amazing.

Here's hoping that's how the end comes.

(June 10, 2013 at 10:30 am)Just Chilling Wrote: What about our life energy when we die where does it go?

(March 13, 2013 at 3:05 pm)Chuck Wrote: Vast majority of the energy that is you, say 99%+, is in the form of the mass of the protons and neutrons that make you up. A small minority, say 0.9999%, is in the form of nuclear energy that comes from the arrangement of protons, neutrons and electrons into atoms of different elements in your body, such as oxygen, hydrogen, etc. The almost infinitesimal remaining portion, say 0.0001%, is chemical energy that comes from the arrangement of atoms into molecules.

Based on all we know about biology, physics, and chemistry, everything that the normal person might consider to his/her essence - the consciousness, the thoughts, the memories, the feelings, are but a small portion of the biological processes powered and controlled by just a very tiny fraction of that infinitesimal remaining portion that is chemical energy - a very tiny fraction of 0.0001%.

So, when you die, you protons and neutrons couldn't care less. None of them will change in the slightest way to mark the occassion. So 99% of your energy thus goes on exactly as if you never even existed.

Your atoms couldn't care less either, unless you by chance step into the path of very powerful neutron beams in your dying mement, in which case one in a quintillion atom in your body might change configuration and gain or release energy. But to a precision of 8 or 10 decimals, your atoms won't care about whether you live or die either. So the 0.9999% of your energy also goes on exactly as it did before, or so close as to make no difference.

The only thing that would go on with any change at all, is the infinitesimal fraction of your energy that is chemical in nature. Where does it go? Well, it goes no where. It is still all there. The only difference is any moderating and governing effect of your biological metabolic process on the extraction and use of this energy, now no longer function. So the existing energy will now be released or utilized in a slightly different way as you decay, and your chemicals either undergo spontaenous chemical reaction, or are taken up by other organisms to come to be regulated and governed by their biological metabolic process, instead of yours.


So is that clear? You stop. Your energy goes on. You are not your energy.

If god not exist , when you die there are not afterlife.

Graham Hancock has an interesting point of view when it comes to death and our consciousness. He theorized that our brain is not the generator of consciousness but is instead the receiver of consciousness. So essentially consciousness exists in some other form somewhere else and is transmitted to us. Of course, there is always the possibility that he drank too much ayahuasca too.

Personally, I subscribe to complete 100% death. Like sleeping.

(June 14, 2013 at 9:07 am)viocjit Wrote: If god not exist , when you die there are not afterlife.

Now this is interesting.

Why should the concept of an afterlife be so bound up with the concept of god?

I see no reason for them not to be completely separate ideas.

Both complete bollocks as far as I'm concerned but still...

(June 14, 2013 at 2:04 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(June 14, 2013 at 9:07 am)viocjit Wrote: If god not exist , when you die there are not afterlife.

Now this is interesting.

Why should the concept of an afterlife be so bound up with the concept of god?

Wikipedia Wrote:Though the major Christian denominations reject the concept of reincarnation, a large number of Christians profess the belief. In a survey by the Pew Forum in 2009, 24% of American Christians expressed a belief in reincarnation. In a 1981 Survey in Europe 31% of regular churchgoing Catholics expressed a belief in reincarnation.

(June 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm)max-greece Wrote: Passed out once in my life. Got up to go for a pee. Fainted immediately on finishing and landed on a pile of towels (incredibly lucky).

The timing is no coincidence.

When you urinate your blood pressure drops a little. This has happened to me a couple times over the past couple years. Never happened when I was even a few years younger ever.

When I get older I'm going to have to start peeing sitting down so I don't bust my head open.

(June 14, 2013 at 5:31 pm)Rahul Wrote:

(June 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm)max-greece Wrote: Passed out once in my life. Got up to go for a pee. Fainted immediately on finishing and landed on a pile of towels (incredibly lucky).

The timing is no coincidence.

When you urinate your blood pressure drops a little. This has happened to me a couple times over the past couple years. Never happened when I was even a few years younger ever.

When I get older I'm going to have to start peeing sitting down so I don't bust my head open.

I faint a lot. Think old fashioned movies classic woman fainting a lot. For my its a combination of low blood pressure and low blood sugar.