(July 9, 2013 at 1:44 pm)Drich Wrote: I was making fun of TGAC by describing what the Nazi's did in the 1938 to Poland. That generation like TGAC did not like how poland was being governed (by the jews) so they did what I was describing to.

1938 was the Czechs. 1939 was Poland. Germany wasn't upset with how Poland was being governed as much as they felt that Poland was occupying ground that they wanted.

Besides, things are looking up in Poland. Once Father John exorcises all of the demons, it'll be happy days in Warsaw. The rest of Europe may not be in such good shape with all of those angry homeless demons running around, though!

My Polish friends tell me modern Polish culture is pervasively anti-science. Science ranks below engineering, literature, poetry and art in perceived value to society and in perceived creativeness. Height of intellectual attainment is introspection, not validation. Science is considered souless and therefore a lesser occupation unsuited to the intellectual elite.

We had a a lot of Polish people come over here to work a few years ago (they've mostly gone back to Poland now, though) and when I started my old job (where I was the only white female, out of about 60, who wasn't Polish), I was quite surprised by how overly religious they all were. I remember one day, a customer had left a book behind, one of L. Ron Hubbard's, and I put it to one side so I could hand it in to Lost Property at the end of my shift. When I came back from my break, the book was in the bin. When I asked her why she'd decided to throw away a customer's property, she told me she'd flipped through it and it was "evil." Pretty weird.

The fact that she would throw away other people's property in other people's country says more about her religiosity than her over religiosity.

How so?

(July 9, 2013 at 4:02 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: We had a a lot of Polish people come over here to work a few years ago (they've mostly gone back to Poland now, though) and when I started my old job (where I was the only white female, out of about 60, who wasn't Polish), I was quite surprised by how overly religious they all were. I remember one day, a customer had left a book behind, one of L. Ron Hubbard's, and I put it to one side so I could hand it in to Lost Property at the end of my shift. When I came back from my break, the book was in the bin. When I asked her why she'd decided to throw away a customer's property, she told me she'd flipped through it and it was "evil." Pretty weird.

Degree of religiosity has nothing to do with boarders and everything to do with conditions at the time. The less educated and the more desperate the poor are, the more dogmatic they are to worship a state or a religion or political party.

(July 9, 2013 at 4:26 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: How so?

She values her religiosity above social civility. If there is one single thrshold for religious fanaticism, that would be it.

It's a shame that the Polish people will probably have to go through decades of economic hardship before enough of them start wondering why other countries near them are doing so much better to make the necessary changes to reverse these trends.

(July 9, 2013 at 3:49 pm)Chuck Wrote: My Polish friends tell me modern Polish culture is pervasively anti-science. Science ranks below engineering, literature, poetry and art in perceived value to society and in perceived creativeness. Height of intellectual attainment is introspection, not validation. Science is considered souless and therefore a lesser occupation unsuited to the intellectual elite.

Copernicus wept.

(July 9, 2013 at 5:39 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: It's a shame that the Polish people will probably have to go through decades of economic hardship before enough of them start wondering why other countries near them are doing so much better to make the necessary changes to reverse these trends.

Hello America has record corporate profits and stagnant and falling wages. But as long as you have gawed guns and babbles, that is what matters.