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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:48 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: *sigh
Alright, which one of us is going to explain this to her?
/cigarette
I was just thinking the same
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:49 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 12:36 pm)LostLocke Wrote: I bet potato!!
Wow, can you count that high?!
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:52 pm
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jamie_russels Wrote:I didn't make a deliberate mistake. I don't know what you're implying, but my point was that human beings can't have existed very long at all because all the water would have been used up by now.
No it wouldn't have. Your friend was off by a factor of 1.03x10^18 if my memory serves me right. That's a bloody shameful slip-up, but sadly you probably can't comprehend that *anyways* since you don't know what the "x10^18" means. Fails all around...
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:54 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 12:39 pm)jamie_russels Wrote: There is no need for rude language. Also, if the water we're drinking is urine then why is it clear? And why doesn't it taste bad? So many people have existed, they have excreted waste into water and bathed in it for thousands of years, so how does water "recycle itself". I remember when me and my brother were kids we went on vacation and he left poo in the toilet and forgot to flush because we were in a hurry to leave. And let me tell you, when we returned one week later that water didn't magically clean itself. It was still there like it was when we left.
*sigh
Alright, which one of us is going to explain this to her?
/cigarette
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:54 pm
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(July 11, 2013 at 12:52 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: No it wouldn't have. Your friend was off by a factor of 1.03x10^18 if my memory serves me right. That's a bloody shameful slip-up, but sadly you probably can't comprehend that *anyways* since you don't know what the "x10^18" means. Fails all around...
Even worse FTR, she thinks water is used up and not recycled. Silly bitch
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Everything about the second post to me points to the elusive troll-poe hybrid. It appears to be in its natural habitat right now.
(July 11, 2013 at 12:49 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 12:36 pm)LostLocke Wrote: I bet potato!!
Wow, can you count that high?! Yes I can!
I'll bet you can't even get past eleventythree!
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Kayenneh called it! Troll troll troll, troll troll tro troll. Trollie trollie troll!
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:59 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 12:54 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: (July 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: *sigh
Alright, which one of us is going to explain this to her?
/cigarette
And to be clear, Jaime, this happens even if water is smothered with shit and urine, dowsed in cyanide, and chucked into a river.
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 12:59 pm
(July 11, 2013 at 3:07 am)jamie_russels Wrote: Hi. I'm new here so this will be my first post. I'm Jamie from Alabama. I'm a proud Baptist and I'd like to point out a few inconsistencies I found in the theory of evolution.
Welcome.
I hope by 'evolution' you mean the biological science of explaining the diversity of life on earth.
Quote:The first point I'd like to make is in relation to the age of the earth and how it ties in with "evolution". I'm a young earth creationist. I believe that God created the earth approximately 5,000-6,000 years ago, and there is a good reason for this belief. Atheist scientists will tell us that the earth is approximately 4.6 billion years old, but this is impossible. Please hear me out and let me explain before you scoff and abandon this thread.
All the testable, verifiable, falsifiable evidence points to an old earth and old universe. None of it points to a young earth.
Young Earth creationists don't follow the evidence, they lead it.
Quote:Atheist scientists believe that we evolved from stardust (even just saying it in a sentence sounds silly lol)
Yet you have no problems believing that a magic being created a man out of dust and a woman from his rib.
Quote:So apparently we are living beings that evolved from lifeless materials. It doesn't make much sense to me because last weekend I was sitting by a lake pondering God's marvelous creation when I picked up a rock and stared at it. It suddenly dawned on me that if that very rock was 4.6 billion years old like athiest scientists say it is, then rocks would have evolved into intelligent creatures also.
Just because it doesn't make sense to you, doesn't mean there aren't people that have dedicated their life to scientific study, that it does make sense to. And they have demonstrable, falsifiable evidence to support their claims. You have a 'feeling'. Reality does not work that way.
Not all scientists are atheists. Dr. Francis Collins is an evangelical Cristian, ex-head of the Human Genome Project, and accepts evolution.
Quote:If evolution really was true and we all evolved from lifeless materials over 4.6 billion years, then that rock should also be a mammal or an insect or something by now. But there it was, still a useless rock, just sitting there. No brain, no self-awareness. Nothing.
Evolution ONLY deals with the study of the diversity of life on earth. It is a biological field of science. The beginning of life is abiogenesis.
Quote:This is another point I'd like to make. In my senior year of science class my teacher (who I also suspect is an atheist) was explaining to us that humans developed large complex brains because "we integrated meat into our diets a long time ago".
Sounds silly to me. We started eating meat and the protein made us evolve a larger more complex brain, resulting in superior intelligence? Okay... well we aren't the only species that eats meat lol. Why didn't other animals evolve to be as intelligent as us? I can name dozens and dozens of animals that eat meat, but can you name how many lions you've met that attended university and became doctors? When you went to high school did you have a grizzly bear teacher? Have you ever had your taxes done by a dog accountant? Nope, not me anyways. A human did my taxes this year.
The reason why other meat eaters didn't evolve superior intelligence is because they did not need it for survival. A tiger does not need superior intelligence to survive, only superior hunting skills.
Evolution does not have a 'goal' or end product as an outcome. Evolution is only about survival and passing DNA to future generations. Evolution is not trying to build some sort of 'super being'.
Quote:Also, I did some research on something else. Apparently the total amount of water on earth is "1.386x10^21 liters", whatever that means. I don't know what the X and the ^ is for, but I'll continue anyways. There are almost 7 billion people on earth, so let's assume that human beings drink two liters of water a day, which could be true for some people. Some people drink a lot of water. That would mean that every human being on this planet collectively drinks 12x10^9 liters of water a day (I'm pretty sure that's right, I had to ask some Asian guy I know to do the math for me. I kinda suck at math)
Now here's what I'm getting at... atheist scientists say that life evolved around 3 billion years ago, so this would mean that human beings alone (excluding animals) would have consumed 9.5 times the amount of water on this planet. This is obviously impossible, because if this were true our oceans would be completely drained by now. So how do we still have large amounts of unused water?
Seriously?
Doesn't every person you know piss? Every drop of water organisms consume ends up back in the hydrologic cycle.
Quote:One more quick thing. If there is no oxygen in space, then how does the sun keep burning? We all know that fire needs oxygen to keep burning.
Seriously?
The sun is a nuclear (fusion) furnace. It 'burns' using nuclear processes, not an exothermic chemical process.
You might want to read REAL science books instead of creationists pseudo-science websites. The answers to all your questions are available.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Problems with the theory of evolution.
July 11, 2013 at 1:00 pm
Why is it that every time I try to think the best of people, they turn around and say something stupid about pee?
Now I'm on the damn poe train too. And also imagining what a poe train would look like.
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