(July 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(July 24, 2013 at 5:23 pm)ronedee Wrote: Are you kidding me? You have more flavours of atheism around here than Baskin & Robbins!

LOL, all you were asked to do was find a single atheist claiming what you said we claim. One! You're hilariously evasive.

How about every "supposed" Atheist? Don't you even know what you are?

Webster: Definition of ATHEISM
1archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2a : a [disbelief in the existence] of deity b : the doctrine that [there is no] deity

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(July 26, 2013 at 7:43 am)Rationalman Wrote: I explained this to rondee just a page back. Did you not read that page? Well, i will say it again:
Atheists do not claim a god does not exist, we claim we do not believe a god exists. Do you see the difference? We are simply reacting to theist claims.
Theists claim that a god does exist. You claim that you know he exists. The burden of proof is on you to prove your extraordinary claim, it is not up to us to try and disprove you.

I would add a stupid example about unicorns or goblins or something but i get the feeling that what i have just said has been repeated to you many times and that you ignore it completely every time

And I'll explain it to you again... Unless you can provide proof of how/what/why the existence of "everything" came to be, there is no basis in saying (true by definition of atheism) there is no God.

If you say: "there might, or may be a God, I have no proof" .....YOU ARE NOT ATHIESTS!

You are in the wrong forum! See you later.

(July 26, 2013 at 10:28 am)ronedee Wrote:

(July 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: LOL, all you were asked to do was find a single atheist claiming what you said we claim. One! You're hilariously evasive.

How about every "supposed" Atheist? Don't you even know what you are?

Webster: Definition of ATHEISM
1archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2a : a [disbelief in the existence] of deity b : the doctrine that [there is no] deity

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(July 26, 2013 at 7:43 am)Rationalman Wrote: I explained this to rondee just a page back. Did you not read that page? Well, i will say it again:
Atheists do not claim a god does not exist, we claim we do not believe a god exists. Do you see the difference? We are simply reacting to theist claims.
Theists claim that a god does exist. You claim that you know he exists. The burden of proof is on you to prove your extraordinary claim, it is not up to us to try and disprove you.

I would add a stupid example about unicorns or goblins or something but i get the feeling that what i have just said has been repeated to you many times and that you ignore it completely every time

And I'll explain it to you again... Unless you can provide proof of the existence of "everything", there is no basis in saying (true by definition of atheism) there is no God.

If you say: "there might, or may be a God, I have no proof" .....YOU ARE NOT ATHIESTS!

You are in the wrong forum! See you later.

a·the·ism
/ˈāTHēˌizəm/
Noun
The theory or belief that God does not exist.


Since there is no evidence for any gods, I don't hold a belief in any.
I am not making a claim that no gods exist. The only claim I am making is that there is no evidence of existence of god.

I am an atheist.

(July 26, 2013 at 10:41 am)Chas Wrote: a·the·ism
/ˈāTHēˌizəm/
Noun
The theory or belief that God does not exist.


Since there is no evidence for any gods, I don't hold a belief in any.
I am not making a claim that no gods exist. The only claim I am making is that there is no evidence of existence of god.

I am an atheist.

Hate to bust your bubble bubby....You are agnostic:

Definition of AGNOSTIC
1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2: a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something

Hmm. Are belief and knowledge different things? Because if they are then one can be both and Atheist and Agnostic. I'm going to hint at this one: Yeah you can be both, just like one can be an agnostic theist.

(July 26, 2013 at 10:46 am)ronedee Wrote: Hate to bust your bubble bubby....You are agnostic:

Definition of AGNOSTIC
1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2: a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something

An agnostic is someone who:

Quote:Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown and (so far as can be judged) unknowable.[1][2][3] Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief

Explain one thing!

How is anyone here on this forum suposed to take you serious as a honest participant in a debate when you have no problem with purposly changing the definitions of words with the intention to deceive others!!!!

(July 26, 2013 at 10:46 am)ronedee Wrote:

(July 26, 2013 at 10:41 am)Chas Wrote: a·the·ism
/ˈāTHēˌizəm/
Noun
The theory or belief that God does not exist.


Since there is no evidence for any gods, I don't hold a belief in any.
I am not making a claim that no gods exist. The only claim I am making is that there is no evidence of existence of god.

I am an atheist.

Hate to bust your bubble bubby....You are agnostic:

Definition of AGNOSTIC
1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2: a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something

No, I am not. I believe that no gods exist.
There is no evidence for their existence.

I am not claiming no gods exist, I am stating disbelief.

(July 26, 2013 at 10:49 am)Psykhronic Wrote: Hmm. Are belief and knowledge different things? Because if they are then one can be both and Atheist and Agnostic. I'm going to hint at this one: Yeah you can be both, just like one can be an agnostic theist.

Well... I've never heard of an "agnostic atheist"... It actually sounds laughable!

My dad is an atheist, and my brother an agnostic. You'd never know by their arguments that they share the same opinion.

Be a man/cat... pick one.

(July 26, 2013 at 10:53 am)ronedee Wrote:

(July 26, 2013 at 10:49 am)Psykhronic Wrote: Hmm. Are belief and knowledge different things? Because if they are then one can be both and Atheist and Agnostic. I'm going to hint at this one: Yeah you can be both, just like one can be an agnostic theist.

Well... I've never heard of an "agnostic atheist"... It actually sounds laughable!

My dad is an atheist, and my brother an agnostic. You'd never know by their arguments that they share the same opinion.

Be a man/cat... pick one.

Educate yourself.

Atheists argue amongst themselves. Plus I dont know if your father is an agnostic atheist or a gnostic atheist or any other opinion of his and i dont know if your brother is an agnostic theist, etc. There is always room for debate.

(July 26, 2013 at 10:53 am)Chas Wrote: No, I am not. I believe that no gods exist.
There is no evidence for their existence.

I am not claiming no gods exist, I am stating disbelief.

Have I found the "achilles heel" of atheism? "Ambiguity".

Yet the Christian must be crystal clear about everything that exists his pie-hole.

You educate yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God