Santa did exist, it's true. He had an unfortunate... accident in my parent's living room on Christmas Eve in 1977.

Yes, as a matter of fact, that is the year that Santa didn't bring me the minibike I asked for. Why do you ask?

(July 27, 2013 at 6:19 pm)genkaus Wrote:

(July 27, 2013 at 5:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Love the question in the tread title, cuts to the core of how fucking absurd god belief is. If one is going to claim magic like 6 day earth, or talking snakes, or walking on water, or virgin births, or zombie gods, why would a guy zooming around the planet with flying reindeer be any less impossible?

Okay, the god belief is a completely different proposition. It is completely unrealistic, makes no logical sense and has no evidence for it whatsoever.

Belief in Santa is something completely different. And he doesn't actually zoom around the planet with flying reindeer. That's a metaphor for how he can be with us in an instant, in spirit, and the flying reindeer represent his connection to nature.

Bullshit. BOTH to believe in require a fucking lobotomy. The difference is that kids recover from the Santa lobotomy and adults don't with God belief.

(July 27, 2013 at 7:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 27, 2013 at 6:19 pm)genkaus Wrote: Okay, the god belief is a completely different proposition. It is completely unrealistic, makes no logical sense and has no evidence for it whatsoever.

Belief in Santa is something completely different. And he doesn't actually zoom around the planet with flying reindeer. That's a metaphor for how he can be with us in an instant, in spirit, and the flying reindeer represent his connection to nature.

Bullshit. BOTH to believe in require a fucking lobotomy. The difference is that kids recover from the Santa lobotomy and adults don't with God belief.

You sound like an asantaist to me. There is still time for you to repent before Christmas. Santa do want to bring you presents, all you have to do is believe.

I'll wish for you.

(July 25, 2013 at 9:04 pm)cratehorus Wrote: When i ask for presents and i have been good i get those presents when i don't get those presents it means i've been bad..........

thoughts, questions, concerns?

Yes he did, he's a Christian saint. He's dead. But being a saint, he will continue to live in heaven according to Christian belief. This guy, who lives in the northpole, I don't know. I never saw him flying anywhere. I don't know who made him up.

(July 26, 2013 at 12:10 am)Esquilax Wrote: I'm a presuppositional Santa believer: you A-Santaists just don't have a coherent worldview without presupposing the existence of Santa. How can you know anything, without an all benevolent present giver at the North Pole?

The TAG for Santa!

He kinda looks like our Dede Korkud though with his felt hat and his beard. But Dede Korkud was not fat. He also did not ride a sledge. He was a bard of great renown, Khans and Princes listened to his council, whereas this guy spends his time somewhere cold having little demons do the work for him.

(July 28, 2013 at 6:30 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Yes he did, he's a Christian saint. He's dead. But being a saint, he will continue to live in heaven according to Christian belief. This guy, who lives in the northpole, I don't know. I never saw him flying anywhere. I don't know who made him up.

The North Pole? That's ridiculous. Nobody could live there. Santa lives in Lapland. I bet Kayenneh has met him.

(July 28, 2013 at 10:17 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: He also did not ride a sledge...

Suddenly my yearly haul of coal dust in a mangled sock makes sense. (Repairing a mantle when you're only three sucks!)

Just an interesting (ish) did you know?

In most of the Western World Santa Claus is supposed to be St. Nicolas but not in Greece. In Greece he is Saint Vassilis (Basil) and he doesn't come on Christmas Eve with presents - he comes on new Year's Eve, traditionally.