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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm
(August 7, 2013 at 3:19 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: (August 7, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Chance multiplied by any number still equals chance.
Right? And if precocious guesses are prophecy, I need to start recording the babblings of the neighborhood three year olds. Just in case.
Only if they happen to coincide with something the prophet wants to count as a hit, or can be made to do so. It's still all guesswork and/or random connections; they just happen to be accurate, in the most mindless way. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 3:26 pm
(August 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (August 7, 2013 at 3:19 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Right? And if precocious guesses are prophecy, I need to start recording the babblings of the neighborhood three year olds. Just in case.
Only if they happen to coincide with something the prophet wants to count as a hit, or can be made to do so. It's still all guesswork and/or random connections; they just happen to be accurate, in the most mindless way. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
You, sir, underestimate my translating/editing/contextualizing skills.
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 3:26 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2013 at 3:28 pm by ThatMuslimGuy2.)
Allah says in the Qur'an:
ادْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Surah 16:125]
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: “The most complete in faith are those best in their character, those who are easy to socialise with, and those who get along with others and others get along with them. There is no good in the one who cannot get along with others and others cannot get along with him.” -Tirmidhi
Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6307:
'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.”
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 3:45 pm
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 3:57 pm
I just have this not so crazy notion that hoops were literally jumped through to draw this conclusion, Muslim guy.
Multiple definitions, multiple writers, multiple centuries. In the end, you have the same written word that you argue means 'expanding universe'. So what? Even accepting this is the real meaning(not a foregone conclusion), you're left with a cherrypicked mash up of isolated phrases. This is prophecy to you? Hell, it's a weaksauce one at that. If there are others, I assume they are even more tenuous, otherwise you'd shout them out first. (Cancer is cured in 2078, The Jews rebuild the temple, etc.).
Next time, light the hoops on fire. At least that would entertain.
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 4:00 pm
So just to be clear, where is the passage in the Quran that predicts hover cars?
Or anti-biotics and subsequent resistance. Where is that? Or even LED lights? I'd take the prophecy of a penny farthing as something better than nothing at all.
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Here's something you should know before you put too much effort into posting these things about the Qur'an. Personally, if the Qur'an predicted every single thing SPOT ON with no ambiguity for interpretation, I still wouldn't say "therefore God". I would say I don't know how the Qur'an did that. That's the difference between a theist and an atheist, a theist uses god to explain way too much.
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 4:18 pm
Allah says in the Qur'an:
ادْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Surah 16:125]
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: “The most complete in faith are those best in their character, those who are easy to socialise with, and those who get along with others and others get along with them. There is no good in the one who cannot get along with others and others cannot get along with him.” -Tirmidhi
Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6307:
'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.”
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Muslim Guy: Do you have anything original? Anything at all that's not copypasta?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 4:26 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm by ThatMuslimGuy2.)
(August 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Muslim Guy: Do you have anything original? Anything at all that's not copypasta?
That is original. Its my blog i wrote it. The link i provided is an article i specifcally written and researched myself.
Allah says in the Qur'an:
ادْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Surah 16:125]
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: “The most complete in faith are those best in their character, those who are easy to socialise with, and those who get along with others and others get along with them. There is no good in the one who cannot get along with others and others cannot get along with him.” -Tirmidhi
Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6307:
'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.”
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