(August 29, 2013 at 10:15 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: So your Qur'an is lying then? It's not that you get what you want is that you're made to want what god wants you to want.

So if you wanted to murder people in Paradise God should let you do that, should He?
And sinners don't enter paradise anyway unless God forgives them or they repent

Adults consenting to a sexual life = fathers fucking daughters. Yes, keep making yourself and your sky daddy look ever the more convincing.

(August 29, 2013 at 10:17 pm)yoleeena Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 10:15 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: So your Qur'an is lying then? It's not that you get what you want is that you're made to want what god wants you to want.

So if you wanted to murder people in Paradise God should let you do that, should He?
And sinners don't enter paradise anyway unless God forgives them or they repent

No hold on. If i want to murder people, but I resisted my whole life because your god told me to. I don't get to go to heaven? If I get to go to heaven god changes my desire and now instead of killing people I want 72 male virgins? How fucking absurd is that?

That's what I'm asking you, you said we get whatever we want in heaven. And when I pointed out the kind of problem that presents. You change your tune and say that you get what god wants you to get in heaven.

So which is it? Try to be honest this time.

(August 29, 2013 at 10:09 pm)Brakeman Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 9:51 pm)yoleeena Wrote: Our eyes can't even handle the sight of the sun, therefore no human being is able the Lord of the universe, and so Muhammad may peace and blessings be upon him never saw God

Wow, the Allah of the Universe is so feeble that he can't communicate directly to mankind in any way. Even my little dog can communicate to me when he needs to pee, but your god, nothing. He can't control his brightness because he'll cook us to a crisp, huh? Did it burn Adam's nose off when he breathed the breath of life in him?

Where is the Angel Gabriel then? Was he burnt up last time he took a message from god? How did he do it? Was he hiding behind a planet?

Did Gabriel die? Why hasn't he spoken to everyone? Why doesn't he provide more believable updates to his message?

If Allah is too bright to make communication from him to you possible, why do you pray? Why would you think it could get to him from the gulf that is blocking his voice to you?

He does communicate, but not verbally as if you watch the news, you'll the effects this can have sometimes .... sometimes people say God has spoken to me and therefore go and kill people, and it does happen a lot in the US

Your life is a test (again, repeating myself), what would be the point if everything was made sooo easy?

Nothing can 'block' God, God is not a human being who is limited

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(August 29, 2013 at 10:20 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 10:17 pm)yoleeena Wrote: So if you wanted to murder people in Paradise God should let you do that, should He?
And sinners don't enter paradise anyway unless God forgives them or they repent

No hold on. If i want to murder people, but I resisted my whole life because your god told me to. I don't get to go to heaven? If I get to go to heaven god changes my desire and now instead of killing people I want 72 male virgins? How fucking absurd is that?

That's what I'm asking you, you said we get whatever we want in heaven. And when I pointed out the kind of problem that presents. You change your tune and say that you get what god wants you to get in heaven.

So which is it? Try to be honest this time.

A good Muslim or even person would not want to murder people, because Islam preaches love and kindness, e.g the Prophet may peace and blessings be upon him said 'none of you is a true believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself', and besides, some one who wants to murder is clearly mentally disturbed

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(August 29, 2013 at 10:19 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Adults consenting to a sexual life = fathers fucking daughters. Yes, keep making yourself and your sky daddy look ever the more convincing.

But tell me why incest is wrong? No one is answering this.....

(August 29, 2013 at 10:21 pm)yoleeena Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 10:20 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: No hold on. If i want to murder people, but I resisted my whole life because your god told me to. I don't get to go to heaven? If I get to go to heaven god changes my desire and now instead of killing people I want 72 male virgins? How fucking absurd is that?

That's what I'm asking you, you said we get whatever we want in heaven. And when I pointed out the kind of problem that presents. You change your tune and say that you get what god wants you to get in heaven.

So which is it? Try to be honest this time.

A good Muslim or even person would not want to murder people, because Islam preaches love and kindness, e.g the Prophet may peace and blessings be upon him said 'none of you is a true believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself', and besides, some one who wants to murder is clearly mentally disturbed

YES. Remember when I asked you if the mentally and intellectually challenged get to go to heaven? See what I was getting at?

So there is a population of people your allah created that will never make it into heaven through no fault of their own. I was talking about psychopaths in my previous post but do gays get to go to heaven? Or are they also "clearly mentally disturbed" and were doomed to spend eternity in hell the moment they were born?

When a Mohammedan demands sexual morality from others, I fucking piss my pants laughing.

(August 29, 2013 at 10:28 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 10:21 pm)yoleeena Wrote: A good Muslim or even person would not want to murder people, because Islam preaches love and kindness, e.g the Prophet may peace and blessings be upon him said 'none of you is a true believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself', and besides, some one who wants to murder is clearly mentally disturbed

YES. Remember when I asked you if the mentally and intellectually challenged get to go to heaven? See what I was getting at?

So there is a population of people your allah created that will never make it into heaven through no fault of their own. I was talking about psychopaths in my previous post but do gays get to go to heaven? Or are they also "clearly mentally disturbed" and were doomed to spend eternity in hell the moment they were born?

The God that made them intellectually/mentally challenged, is also available to make them normal, and on the day of judgement they will be sharp and not the way they were on earth, because God was testing them with their disability, and God tests people in different ways

Gays who are not celibate are sinners in Islam, so they are unlikely to go to heaven
We all agree incest is disgusting and wrong (hopefully), and homosexuality is just as disgusting and wrong

(August 29, 2013 at 9:46 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 9:21 pm)yoleeena Wrote: Why do you want the Arabic? Do you understand Arabic?

أنت أسوأ مسلم لقد واجهت قبل

But that's not the point. Most Muslims adhere to the idea that reading the Quran without the authentic Arabic script right next to it is very taboo. That's why I asked.

I am curious though; what word did the Quran use? Perhaps I can shed some more light on it. (Even if I can't prove that it's used in the context to mean 'split in twain', that still doesn't even come close to explaining the characteristics of the beginnings of the Big Bang.)

Looks like you skipped this one. I'm still curious about that word.

No one is answering my question, come on atheist, don't shy away I haven't shyed away from your questions...

Why is incest wrong from the atheist point of view ?

This will be very interesting

(August 29, 2013 at 10:33 pm)yoleeena Wrote:

(August 29, 2013 at 10:28 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: YES. Remember when I asked you if the mentally and intellectually challenged get to go to heaven? See what I was getting at?

So there is a population of people your allah created that will never make it into heaven through no fault of their own. I was talking about psychopaths in my previous post but do gays get to go to heaven? Or are they also "clearly mentally disturbed" and were doomed to spend eternity in hell the moment they were born?

The God that made them intellectually/mentally challenged, is also available to make them normal, and on the day of judgement they will be sharp and not the way they were on earth, because God was testing them with their disability, and God tests people in different ways

Gays who are not celibate are sinners in Islam, so they are unlikely to go to heaven
We all agree incest is disgusting and wrong (hopefully), and homosexuality is just as disgusting and wrong

Stop flipflopping.

You said that we get all we want in heaven.

Then you say someone who is mentally challenged and desires to murder people do not get to go to heaven despite not having murdered anyone.

Then now you're saying they still get to go to heaven.

Get your story straight.

We'll get to incest once you make up your mind about this.