Quote:The scriptures do not call for little kids to be killed because they are unruly.

Quote:31 And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land before thee: begin to possess, that thou mayest inherit his land.

32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz.

33 And the Lord our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.

34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.

Deut 2

GC Wrote:Funny how what you call a bronze age definition lasted into the 20th century. That's a definition that has stood for well over 3000 years.

(September 8, 2013 at 4:05 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I wonder, when you see our theists talking about how mass murder and other atrocities are not only acceptable but deserving of praise, ..

THEBIBLE Wrote:Deuteronomy 21:18-21
“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Leviticus 20:9
For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.

2 Kings 2:23-24
He went up from there to Bethel, and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the Lord. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys.

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Psalm 137

8 Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us.
9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

Psalms 21:9-10
If you make God angry, he'll burn you and your children to death.

Psalms 2:8-9
If you ask God, he'll force heathens to be your slaves and help you "dash them in pieces."

Psalms
The God of peace teaches us how to kill our neighbors in war.

3:7 Arise, O LORD; save me, O my God: for thou hast smitten all mine enemies upon the cheek bone; thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly.

18:40 Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies; that I might destroy them that hate me. (18:40-43)
God helps believers kill their enemies.
(18:40) "Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies; that I might destroy them that hate me."

(18:41) "They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the LORD, but he answered them not."
Can God be found?

(18:42) "I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did cast them out as the dirt in the streets."

(18:43) "Thou hast made me the head of the heathen: a people whom I have not known shall serve me."

18:41 They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the LORD, but he answered them not.
18:42 Then did I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did cast them out as the dirt in the streets.
18:43 Thou hast delivered me from the strivings of the people; and thou hast made me the head of the heathen: a people whom I have not known shall serve me.

21:8 Thine hand shall find out all thine enemies: thy right hand shall find out those that hate thee.

(21:9-10) "Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them. Their fruit shalt thou destroy from the earth, and their seed from among the children of men."

21:12 Therefore shalt thou make them turn their back, when thou shalt make ready thine arrows upon thy strings against the face of them.

58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

58:6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O LORD

58:7 Let them melt away as waters which run continually: when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces.

58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.

58:10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.

59:8 But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision.

59:10 The God of my mercy shall prevent me: God shall let me see my desire upon mine enemies.

68:21 But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses.

68:23 That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same.

101:8 I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD.

44:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

49:5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. (149:5-8)
The saints praise God while they kill and enslave "the heathen."
(149:5) "Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds."

(149:6) "Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand."

(149:7) "To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people."

(149:8) "To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron."

149:6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;
149:7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
149:8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

Numbers
25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.
25:5 And Moses said unto the judges of Israel, Slay ye every one his men that were joined unto Baalpeor.
25:6 And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
25:7 And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand;
25:8 And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel.
25:9 And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand.
25:10 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
25:11 Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, hath turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, while he was zealous for my sake among them, that I consumed not the children of Israel in my jealousy.
25:12 Wherefore say, Behold, I give unto him my covenant of peace:
25:13 And he shall have it, and his seed after him, even the covenant of an everlasting priesthood; because he was zealous for his God, and made an atonement for the children of Israel.

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(September 8, 2013 at 8:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures do not call for little kids to be killed because they are unruly.

(September 8, 2013 at 3:14 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: The more I talked to Drich, and JohnV, and GodsChild, the more I realized: They're sure as shit right. The Bible dOes say that, and as Christians they're perfectly justified in believing such misogynistic, racist, evil, punitive, condemnatory beliefs that they hold dear because: THEIR BIBLE TEACHES IT.

(September 9, 2013 at 5:15 am)Aractus Wrote:

(September 8, 2013 at 3:14 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: The more I talked to Drich, and JohnV, and GodsChild, the more I realized: They're sure as shit right. The Bible dOes say that, and as Christians they're perfectly justified in believing such misogynistic, racist, evil, punitive, condemnatory beliefs that they hold dear because: THEIR BIBLE TEACHES IT.

You know I've said it many times, don't presume to tell me what my beliefs are. It's the same fucking sentiment I give to people who presume to tell me how to do my job: I don't go into their workplace and tell them how to do their jobs; I don't go to AA meetings and tell them how to run their meetings; I don't go to gyms and tell people how to work out, and I sure as shit don't go into doctor's surgeries and tell the patients what to do with their medical advice.

Oh, and plus I don't despise people who have different beliefs to me, which I think I can safely say, is the number one difference that I see between your outlook and mine.