(October 2, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 2:56 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: God exists.

Prove it. No faith, no Bible. Give evidence, tangible evidence.

How did the universe come into being?

How did life start?

Just 2 simple questions.

(October 2, 2013 at 2:56 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 2:55 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: For anyone to even assume that God did something/nothing, you first have to prove he/she/it exists. This has not yet been accomplished, so science keeps on trucking without having to assume anything of a supernatural sort.

God exists.

So the assumption, which was unproven, was false.

Santa exists.

So the assumption, which was unproven, was false.

(October 2, 2013 at 3:00 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Prove it. No faith, no Bible. Give evidence, tangible evidence.

How did the universe come into being?

How did life start?

Just 2 simple questions.

Tide comes in, tide goes out. You can't explain it.

(October 2, 2013 at 2:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:God exists.

Evidence? Because I sure as shit am not interested in your fairy tales.

If any believer of any pet sky daddy claim, of any religion anywhere in the world wants to shut us up, they can try. All they have to do is get to the patent office and or win a Nobel Prize in "poof" theory.

Its a futile effort for sure, but that hasn't ever stopped humanity from concocting polytheistic or monotheistic gods.

(October 2, 2013 at 3:00 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Prove it. No faith, no Bible. Give evidence, tangible evidence.

How did the universe come into being?

How did life start?

Just 2 simple questions.

We have theories. You have an invisible sky daddy. Spit in one hand and see which fills up faster.

(October 2, 2013 at 3:00 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Prove it. No faith, no Bible. Give evidence, tangible evidence.

How did the universe come into being?

How did life start?

Just 2 simple questions.

Even if the answer is - unknown at this time that doesn't mean God did it.

How did God come into being?

and the one I asked a couple of pages ago which you ignored:

Why is he such a bad designer?

(October 2, 2013 at 2:49 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Atheistic origin science assumes that God did absolutely nothing and is not considered in origin science.

I don't assume "God" did absolutely nothing because I have learned there never was a "God" to do/not do anything. Naturalism created the universe, and it is not sentient.

And if you believe science requires a god, you are very, very ignorant.

(October 2, 2013 at 3:00 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Prove it. No faith, no Bible. Give evidence, tangible evidence.

How did the universe come into being?

How did life start?

Just 2 simple questions.

The same way hurricanes start, natural processes. You assume a "who" as a cause, when a "what" is all that is required. The same reason you don't pray to a "gravity god". If you jump off a building, do pray to Allah not to go "splat"?

How did life start? DNA, evolution.

Next.

(October 2, 2013 at 3:00 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Prove it. No faith, no Bible. Give evidence, tangible evidence.

How did the universe come into being?

How did life start?

Just 2 simple questions.

No, they're not simple, you simpleton. Not unless you wish to indulge in magical thinking and fallacious reasoning. Yahweh did it? Bullshit. I want to see evidence for that claim and not the ravings of the ignorant, superstitious authors of your holy book.

I asked you before if you understood the difference between a theory and a hypothesis in a scientific context. Forget that question. I really want to know if you know a single thing about scientific method. Do you even fathom why magical/supernatural explanations aren't used? Do you really care, or is this thread nothing but you jerking off the rest of us?

Ah so we're moving from argument from design to argument from existence? Something like:

P: Without God, the universe wouldn't exist.
P: The universe exists.
C: Therefore, God.

Again, "I don't know" is a valid answer in science which leads to discovery, while "Goddidit" leads to intellectual stagnation. Even if we don't know exactly how the universe began, it doesn't mean that "Goddidit" is the right answer or that we won't discover the answer to that question at some point in the future.