(October 7, 2013 at 10:20 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

Quote: I quite like gospel music from time to time

You sick bastard.hock:

Its great to have sex to. I just try to make sure Jesus comes before I do.

Sadly we both usually beat my wife but, that's what paddles were invented for.

(October 7, 2013 at 10:14 am)max-greece Wrote: Of course Hypocrisy isn't a one way street. I quite like gospel music from time to time - although I tend to ignore the lyrics.

Then there's Bach, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Verdi, Rossini.....

Basically all of them were either employed by the Church or put biblical stories to music, or both.

Can't have it all.

And lets not talk about art.....

No, I have no choice in the context of this situation, if I do not work, I don't eat or pay my bills. I am a hostage, and even if I quit and get another job, where I live, the same attitude is going to take place, even without a radio.

I work in a "right to fuck the employee state". If I raise enough of a fuss over their music monopoly and Sunday church crap in the kitchen, or any god talk, they can and would fire me and use a totally unrelated excuse, and there would be no way for me to prove it.

I don't even have to debate them, they would get offended if I wore a shirt or hat that just merely had the word "atheist" on it. But they wear crosses in front of the customers and freely talk all the time to each other about church on top of the radio stuff.

I am not talking about "art", I am talking about their blatant hypocrisy. I wouldn't give a shit if I had the same ability to state my position without fear of being fired, but I don't. I am expected to be the good uncle tom atheist and sit at the back of the buss. They are pathetically proud of themselves because they know an atheist (Some of my best friends are atheists) shit like that. They are fine with me as long as I keep my mouth shut.

(October 7, 2013 at 7:52 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: Since you won't answer the question on the other thread, would a simple organism disprove god?

If it did, the OP would be clear-cut evidence that god doesn't exist.

I'm still waiting on my explanation on how, if evolution is false, did nylon-eating bacteria come about after humans invented nylon. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it though.

Obviously, the bacteria were created in the Garden of Eden with the taste for nylon, so God had to guide humans to invent nylon for them to eat.

Signal jammers are relatively cheap, and they're not hard to build.

You could have some fun. Pretend to be jamming the waves with your atheistic powers.

(October 7, 2013 at 11:12 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I'm still waiting on my explanation on how, if evolution is false, did nylon-eating bacteria come about after humans invented nylon. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it though.

Bacteria before and bacteria afterward. No upward evolution to a new kind.

So what is your point?

Goats never ate manufactured cardboard until man invented manufactured cardboard.

Grace, you're still repeating the canard about "upward evolution," even though it has been explained to you that evolutionary science does not claim any such thing. Again, your insistence on repeating your strawmen is preventing you from making any kind of compelling case. I'm pretty sure Jesus doesn't like liars.

(October 7, 2013 at 12:59 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 7, 2013 at 11:12 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I'm still waiting on my explanation on how, if evolution is false, did nylon-eating bacteria come about after humans invented nylon. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it though.

Bacteria before and bacteria afterward. No upward evolution to a new kind.

So what is your point?

Goats never ate manufactured cardboard until man invented manufactured cardboard.

From Wikipedia:

Quote:In 1975 a team of Japanese scientists discovered a strain of Flavobacterium, living in ponds containing waste water from a nylon factory, that was capable of digesting certain byproducts of nylon 6 manufacture, such as the linear dimer of 6-aminohexanoate. These substances are not known to have existed before the invention of nylon in 1935. Further study revealed that the three enzymes the bacteria were using to digest the byproducts were significantly different from any other enzymes produced by other Flavobacterium strains (or, for that matter, any other bacteria), and not effective on any material other than the manmade nylon byproducts.[1]

So how did these bacteria start producing those enzymes which before were never seen in any bacteria ever until after man created nylon?

Again, you're being willfully stupid in repeating the "bacteria are just bacteria, there's no new kind" idiocy because you're still holding onto that straw man argument that evolution means a dog will give birth to a cat or a chimp will give birth to a human.

How do you explain antibiotic-resistant bacteria? The same bacteria which before were killed by antibiotics but now are not affected? Yes, they're still bacteria but they're not the same bacteria as numerous generations before.

Oh and just to disprove your original post on this thread:

Quote:There is scientific consensus that the capacity to synthesize nylonase most probably developed as a single-step mutation that survived because it improved the fitness of the bacteria possessing the mutation. This is seen as a good example of evolution through mutation and natural selection that has been observed as it occurs.[7][8][9][10]

Check fucking mate. Same goes for any idiot who claims that nobody has ever observed evolution occurring.

(October 7, 2013 at 1:10 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:

(October 7, 2013 at 12:59 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Bacteria before and bacteria afterward. No upward evolution to a new kind.

So what is your point?

Goats never ate manufactured cardboard until man invented manufactured cardboard.

From Wikipedia:

Quote:In 1975 a team of Japanese scientists discovered a strain of Flavobacterium, living in ponds containing waste water from a nylon factory, that was capable of digesting certain byproducts of nylon 6 manufacture, such as the linear dimer of 6-aminohexanoate. These substances are not known to have existed before the invention of nylon in 1935. Further study revealed that the three enzymes the bacteria were using to digest the byproducts were significantly different from any other enzymes produced by other Flavobacterium strains (or, for that matter, any other bacteria), and not effective on any material other than the manmade nylon byproducts.[1]

So how did these bacteria start producing those enzymes which before were never seen in any bacteria ever until after man created nylon?

Again, you're being willfully stupid in repeating the "bacteria are just bacteria, there's no new kind" idiocy because you're still holding onto that straw man argument that evolution means a dog will give birth to a cat or a chimp will give birth to a human.

How do you explain antibiotic-resistant bacteria? The same bacteria which before were killed by antibiotics but now are not affected? Yes, they're still bacteria but they're not the same bacteria as numerous generations before.

How did you know that those enzymes did not exist before?

And you must be blind because they are still bacteria, so atoms to mankind evolution has no evidence.

You have no God and no evidence.