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The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 5:11 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Produced by science. Origins was not involved.
Origins are not involved in nearly ANY scientific endeavor. There are a handful of scientists who explore the theoretical biochemistry of origins, a tiny field which is... wait for it.... SEPARATE FROM EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY. Evolutionary science deals with change in genomes. A genome had to exist for evolutionary science to study it.

Now, it is fine if you want to argue against both those fields. But stop being so embarrassingly dense and realize that creationists are the ONLY people who see these as one thing.

And the scientific method and standards of evidence in evolutionary science are the same as in all other branches of Biology, and evolutionary science is responsible for many of the antibiotics on the market. So best not take any of those.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 5:22 pm)Zazzy Wrote: evolutionary science is responsible for many of the antibiotics on the market. So best not take any of those.

As pretty much everything we eat are products of evolutionary biology, I'd recommend staying away from food as well.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 5:22 pm)Zazzy Wrote: evolutionary science is responsible for many of the antibiotics on the market. So best not take any of those.

As pretty much everything we eat are products of evolutionary biology, I'd recommend staying away from food as well.
Indeedy. And all those molecular pathways we understand and develop drugs for because we are able to find organisms with homologous genes for study? All those drugs tested on other animals? My dog, Cthulu, it's atheistic origin science everywhere you turn.

I guess I'm going to recommend that Grace stick to water and prayer so Jesus doesn't treat her like a fig tree when he discovers her betrayal.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 5:28 pm)Zazzy Wrote: I guess I'm going to recommend that Grace stick to water

As long as it's not modern sanitized water, there's gotta be some tie in to evolutionary biology there too. Best to stick with the natural stuff. Too bad dysentery and cholera suck so hard.


(October 8, 2013 at 5:28 pm)Zazzy Wrote: and prayer

That's probably still safe.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: As long as it's not modern sanitized water, there's gotta be some tie in to evolutionary biology there too. Best to stick with the natural stuff. Too bad dysentery and cholera suck so hard.
Too bad for Grace. Being thirsty is hard. But maybe she has AB blood type, which evolved to protect against cholera?

Shit! Grace, let all the blood out! It's contaminated by atheistic origin science!
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 5:37 pm)Zazzy Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 5:34 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: As long as it's not modern sanitized water, there's gotta be some tie in to evolutionary biology there too. Best to stick with the natural stuff. Too bad dysentery and cholera suck so hard.
Too bad for Grace. Being thirsty is hard. But maybe she has AB blood type, which evolved to protect against cholera?

Shit! Grace, let all the blood out! It's contaminated by atheistic origin science!

Shouldn't take long. The head is already drained.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 5:22 pm)Zazzy Wrote: evolutionary science is responsible for many of the antibiotics on the market. So best not take any of those.

As pretty much everything we eat are products of evolutionary biology, I'd recommend staying away from food as well.

Absolutely false. It is the product of God's design.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 7:07 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: As pretty much everything we eat are products of evolutionary biology, I'd recommend staying away from food as well.

Absolutely false. It is the product of God's design.

All of the domesticated plants and animals are the product of humans selectively breeding and hybridizing evolved organisms.
All of it.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 7:07 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Absolutely false. It is the product of God's design.
Except that no produce you can buy in the grocery store has not been selectively bred for particular qualities- a process that takes advantage of the principles of natural selection. Have you ever see a REAL apple, Grace? Or did you think God created Granny Smiths and Red Delicious and all the apple varieties? They were selectively bred by farmers, and today they are tweaked in the lab- following the principles of evolutionary change.

Same for every other kind of fruit or vegetable (or meat animal) at the store- all changed by selective breeding by people. I guess you never heard of Ray Comfort's banana.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
(October 8, 2013 at 7:07 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: As pretty much everything we eat are products of evolutionary biology, I'd recommend staying away from food as well.

Absolutely false. It is the product of God's design.

Absolutely wrong. It is the product of human selection.
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