(October 10, 2013 at 10:24 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: There isn't anything particularly new in Scientology it's essentially just some of the elements of the esoteric/occult Western tradition repackaged in science fiction and delivered as an expensive self help course.

So, except for the expense, it's just like Christianity, right?

(October 10, 2013 at 10:09 am)leodeo Wrote: well im not saying u have to believe all the spirtual aspects - but isnt it just like atheism in the sense that its a "quest for knowledge" and finding out what is true for you?

Atheism is not a quest for knowledge. Science is.

You are sadly mistaken in your views. In fact, you are an idiot.

Is it just me or is there a recent influx of nutjobs around here?

I know perfectly well this guy is a troll. This response and any others I make on this thread are directed more towards other people who wonder why Scientology gets such a bad rap.

(October 10, 2013 at 9:59 am)leodeo Wrote: Scientology gets a lot of bad rep from the media, but hey every religion has it cooks.

Scientology gets a bad rap because of the overwhelming and well documented evidence that it exists for nothing more than to exploit its members. Start here, noob.

http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/time910605.html

On a related note, Scientology is not a religion. It only gained tax exempt status through a well documented fraud in the US.

http://www.lermanet.com/reference/brennan-dec.pdf

(October 10, 2013 at 9:59 am)leodeo Wrote: I been checking it out and I think its helping me a lot. YOu can go on their website and see local churches close to you (usually in bigger cities.)

Check out this video its only 1 minute long but its what motivated to give it a try:

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see? Scientology is a quest for knowledge, just like atheism.

If you listen to the cult itself, of course all they're going to tell you about flowers, pretty unicorns, and rainbows. The reality to quite different and you'll realize that the first time you get 'regged' for a new set of Miscavige's 'squirrel tech,' the Basics. It'll be about $6,000 and you're just getting started. Soon you'll be asked to buy multiple sets to give to other people, and thats on top of your courses and your IAS donations. Since you seem to like the videos Scientology makes, here's a nice from the IAS for you.

(October 10, 2013 at 9:59 am)leodeo Wrote: And i been going to the church and they havn't tried to take all my money

Then you haven't been there very long yet. All cults start with a period of love bombing before they start making their demands.

Mind Control Made Easy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-Hms7bHqY

(October 10, 2013 at 9:59 am)leodeo Wrote: - yes they sold me a couple books but nowadays the church has evolved that you dont have to spend all your money on auditing you can get a "self analysis" book and fix the negative energy within you urself!

The "church" is all about selling massively overpriced books, most of which can be purchased on eBay for pennies, and hugely expensive auditing. Btw, I know you're aren't really a Scientologist when you use the term 'negative energy within you.'

(October 10, 2013 at 9:59 am)leodeo Wrote: -its just a great community and the people are really firendly, please just the watch the video!

They'll be friendly until you fight their control or refuse to empty out your savings. Then the real fun begins.

(October 10, 2013 at 9:59 am)leodeo Wrote: its just like atheism, int he video they talk about knowledge, non comformity, thinking for yourself, being a free thinker.

Yeah, I have an advertising slogan for them. 'Think for yourself- Duplicate Ron.' If you don't get what that means, you will.

Macky, is that you?

Quote:Scientology gets a lot of bad rep from the media, but hey every religion has it cooks.

I prefer my cooks in a kitchen...not a church.

(October 10, 2013 at 9:59 am)leodeo Wrote: see? Scientology is a quest for knowledge, just like atheism.

Neither scientology nor atheism is a quest for knowledge.

(October 10, 2013 at 10:47 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Macky, is that you?

Because I don't give a shit about the trolly OP, I'll instead just squeal in delight over your new Mokona av.

(October 10, 2013 at 10:24 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: I'll include the last one as that will build a sense of community and grounding in the world. All of this is free of course, or at least not as expensive as an auditing session would. And a good and much cheaper alternative psychiatry and self help courses.

I lol'ed.

(October 10, 2013 at 11:24 am)Esquilax Wrote: Because I don't give a shit about the trolly OP, I'll instead just squeal in delight over your new Mokona av.

Mokona's the best, and my totem animal to boot. White, fluffy, silly and though I mostly produce meaningless chatter, sometimes when I open my mouth, something really surprising and useful comes out