The only man who seemed to stop a war this year was Putin.

Ironic, eh?

(October 11, 2013 at 9:48 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Like I do care after Obama received that prize, it has lost all sorts of real value in my eyes.

The prize of 1973 went to Henry Kissenger and Le Doc Ho, for signing a Vietnam peace agreement. A peace agreement that didnt even last for a year.

If anything, than that is the most undeserved nobel peace prize.

And even after that prize being undeserved, the prize had gone to numerous people who did definatly deserve it. Such as Lech Walesa, Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu, Mickail Gorbachev, Yasser Arafat and Yizak Rabbin.

One or two fails do not discredit the prize, and despite some misjudgements I have absolutly no doubt that it will be given to people who well deserve it in the future.

For me, after the fail of giving the prize to Obama in 2008, the nobel commision gained back my trust after awarding Liu Xiaobo in 2010.

(October 11, 2013 at 11:47 am)Minimalist Wrote: The only man who seemed to stop a war this year was Putin.

Ironic, eh?

If Kissinger of the-bomb-the-fuck-out-of-cambodia and launch-a-coup-against-Allende can get a Nobel Peace prize for Vietnam, Putin should certainly get one for Syria, after all he didn't even attempt to bomb the Syrian to the peace negotiation table, how much more peaceful can one get?

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(October 11, 2013 at 3:58 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Lech Walesa, Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu, Mickail Gorbachev, Yasser Arafat and Yizak Rabbin.

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For me, after the fail of giving the prize to Obama in 2008, the nobel commision gained back my trust after awarding Liu Xiaobo in 2010.

Of those, only Gorbachev, Arafat and Rabbin can by any finite twist of imagination and logic be said to deserve a Peace prize.

The Nobel peace prize is not, at least by open admission, the Nobel post WWII northern European sensibilities prize.

Malala!

It is becoming increasingly common to award Nobel peace prize not for accomplishment but for effort, and not for effort directly for peace, but effort towards the political and ideological positions compatible with western sensibilities of the day.

No wonder Nobel peace prize has become a joke next to the Nobel prizes for the sciences.

The Internet should come up with its own peace prize.

Quote:It is becoming increasingly common to award Nobel peace prize not for accomplishment but for effort

Peace itself seems elusive.

(October 11, 2013 at 3:58 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:

(October 11, 2013 at 9:48 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Like I do care after Obama received that prize, it has lost all sorts of real value in my eyes.

The prize of 1973 went to Henry Kissenger and Le Doc Ho, for signing a Vietnam peace agreement. A peace agreement that didnt even last for a year.

If anything, than that is the most undeserved nobel peace prize.

And even after that prize being undeserved, the prize had gone to numerous people who did definatly deserve it. Such as Lech Walesa, Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu, Mickail Gorbachev, Yasser Arafat and Yizak Rabbin.

One or two fails do not discredit the prize, and despite some misjudgements I have absolutly no doubt that it will be given to people who well deserve it in the future.

For me, after the fail of giving the prize to Obama in 2008, the nobel commision gained back my trust after awarding Liu Xiaobo in 2010.

Didn't the commitee give it to themselves (E.U.) last year?

(October 12, 2013 at 10:33 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:It is becoming increasingly common to award Nobel peace prize not for accomplishment but for effort

Peace itself seems elusive.

Then not granting a peace prize in this situation would validate the peace prize far better than granting it to award someone for merely pleasing western sensibilities.

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(October 12, 2013 at 11:23 am)CleanShavenJesus Wrote:

(October 11, 2013 at 3:58 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: The prize of 1973 went to Henry Kissenger and Le Doc Ho, for signing a Vietnam peace agreement. A peace agreement that didnt even last for a year.

If anything, than that is the most undeserved nobel peace prize.

And even after that prize being undeserved, the prize had gone to numerous people who did definatly deserve it. Such as Lech Walesa, Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu, Mickail Gorbachev, Yasser Arafat and Yizak Rabbin.

One or two fails do not discredit the prize, and despite some misjudgements I have absolutly no doubt that it will be given to people who well deserve it in the future.

For me, after the fail of giving the prize to Obama in 2008, the nobel commision gained back my trust after awarding Liu Xiaobo in 2010.

Didn't the commitee give it to themselves (E.U.) last year?

The EU is not the Nobel prize committee, although Nobel peace prize does seem to increasingly overlook the existence of sensibilities outside those common in EU.

Quote:Then not granting a peace prize in this situation would validate the peace prize far better than granting it to award someone for merely pleasing western sensibilities.

No argument here.
It would send more of a message.