(October 19, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: The purpose of the universe is to create intelligent/civilized forms of life, if that's what you're asking.

If that's true, why is it that for 13.98 billion years there was no intelligent/civilized form of life on this planet?

Quote: It wasn't randomly generated by chance but was purposely created by God.

So this deity created the universe? If that's true, where did this being exist before the universe was created? Is there some realm outside the universe? If so, where is it?

(October 19, 2013 at 12:08 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Oh look, another lie about what atheists believe. Do you think your god is proud of you, Sword?

Do you believe in God and a purpose made universe? If you don't then what I'm saying applies to you you have to know what you actually believe.

Quote:What do you know? Another one! Are you out to impress Satan, maybe?

Eh?

Quote:That makes three, you dishonest fuck.

Are you having some kind of conversation with yourself here? I don't know what you're going on about.

Quote:Seriously, where do you get off telling us what we believe?

Because you don't seem to know or understand what you believe. If you don't believe in God or a creator or a higher power or a purposeful creation then you are believing what I'm telling you. Or do you actually believe in God and you're just being dishonest with yourself? Are you trying to be rebellious and cool? Trying to fit in with a group? Do you believe God or not? I'm not asking what you know btw.

Quote:How do you get the sheer fucking arrogance to think you know anything about us and our position?

You don't even know what you believe. You may want to find out before you try argue about this. Atheists who do know what they believe and why will agree with me.

Quote:You don't know us, you don't know our thoughts

You have demonstrated your own ignorance when it comes to the question of God and what it means if he doesn't exist.

Quote:, you don't even know our names, and yet somehow you're more qualified to detail what we think that we are? How can you not see that you're lying, right now? What makes you think this is okay?

I don't need to know your name to tell what atheism and a universe without God/a purpose giver entails.

Quote:We aren't doing this to you, you prick! All of us are asking questions, getting you to tell us what you believe, and then critiquing those answers.

I'm giving you plenty of answers regarding what a belief in God/a purposeful power entails. This being contrasted to alternative which essentially materialism, the coincidental byproduct of a directionless non-intelligent natural force that just exists as it is by itself. If you want to reject God then it will help you to understand what thew deal actually would be rather than trying to argue, swear or accuse me lying about something. This is entirely truthful and true.

(October 19, 2013 at 2:04 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: I'm giving you plenty of answers regarding what a belief in God/a purposeful power entails. This being contrasted to alternative which essentially materialism, the coincidental byproduct of a directionless non-intelligent natural force that just exists as it is by itself. If you want to reject God then it will help you to understand what thew deal actually would be rather than trying to argue, swear or accuse me lying about something. This is entirely truthful and true.

yesterday u told us that eternity is god,
just a few posts ago u told us god is god

now do u pray to eternity or god ??


it looks more and more u r getting tangled up in ur own lies and fantasy stories.

Are my posts invisible? I keep asking questions, but I'm not getting any answers. Does this forum have post blocking?

(October 19, 2013 at 2:16 pm)StuW Wrote: Are my posts invisible? I keep asking questions, but I'm not getting any answers. Does this forum have post blocking?

u r visable...

You know, Sword, you might want to consider reading what people actually write without passing it through your filter of preconceived bias first.

Frankly, you're coming across as an arrogant asshole.

(October 19, 2013 at 1:56 pm)Thor Wrote: If that's true, why is it that for 13.98 billion years there was no intelligent/civilized form of life on this planet?

This planet was formed 4 billion years ago. For billions of years it was covered in solid sheet of ice so that may have delayed development of complex multicultural life. We would really need to find other planets with life on them to know how long the process will take on average. But certainly what you're looking at here is a very complex process, it has a very complex outcome and it will take a very long time to build up toward this complexity. So it is what you would expect to see.

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So this deity created the universe? If that's true, where did this being exist before the universe was created?

He exists within time and space being immanent within his creation but as these things are his creation to begin with he isn't restricted to having to exist within time and space. He is his transcendent beyond these things. A nice bit of William Lane Craig on this subject look.

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Is there some realm outside the universe? If so, where is it?

Well yes that would be the idea in general though God created all these realms of existence he doesn't have a realm that he himself has to exist in though he exists in but he exists in everything he made and is relational to it and to ourselves of course.

(October 19, 2013 at 2:04 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: rather than trying to argue, swear or accuse me lying about something. This is entirely truthful and true.

CREATIONIST ONLINE DEBATING TIPS: LESSON 51.
If atheists are being mean to you, start telling them that they are 'satans little helpers' and will burn in hell for eternity. Jesus will love you even more and put you in the front of the que for heaven.

(October 19, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: For billions of years it was covered in solid sheet of ice

Got a cite for that? Of course you don't, because it's absolute bullshit.

(October 19, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:

(October 19, 2013 at 1:56 pm)Thor Wrote: If that's true, why is it that for 13.98 billion years there was no intelligent/civilized form of life on this planet?

This planet was formed 4 billion years ago. For billions of years it was covered in solid sheet of ice so that may have delayed development of complex multicultural life. We would really need to find other planets with life on them to know how long the process will take on average. But certainly what you're looking at here is a very complex process, it has a very complex outcome and it will take a very long time to build up toward this complexity. So it is what you would expect to see.

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So this deity created the universe? If that's true, where did this being exist before the universe was created?

He exists within time and space being immanent within his creation but as these things are his creation to begin with he isn't restricted to having to exist within time and space. He is his transcendent beyond these things. A nice bit of William Lane Craig on this subject look.

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Is there some realm outside the universe? If so, where is it?

Well yes that would be the idea in general though God created all these realms of existence he doesn't have a realm that he himself has to exist in though he exists in but he exists in everything he made and is relational to it and to ourselves of course.

god is nothing more as a strawman combined with an argument of authority to make ur lies fit ..


thanks for proving that ..