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Theists, some questions
October 21, 2013 at 9:27 am
I have been on a christian forum or 2 and there are a couple of questions I typically asked them, I'd like to bring them here and repeat that process. Mainly because it is interesting (I have gotten responses I genuinely did not expect, some I liked and thought were benign and others uplifting/hopeful. But I have also gotten some downright scary answers too).
So, without further ado.
In claiming something to be a miracle, is it necessary to know of all possible natural explanations for said event? If so, how can you ever claim it to be a miracle since you cannot possibly know of all possibilities? If not, how can you claim it to be a miracle? (miracle = suspension of the natural order)
If god commanded you to kill someone (for all intents and purposes let's assume we both agree that it is in fact god itself/himself/herself who did indeed tell you to do so), is following god's orders and killing them a moral action? Why or why not?
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 21, 2013 at 3:45 pm
I guess there are either no takers or no theists on today.
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 6:02 pm
They're intimidated by the beard slap. 
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 6:04 pm
come on, guys! Answer! He's got a beard, dammit!
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 6:12 pm
I wonder where they are? Wait....what's that sound?
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 6:16 pm
(October 22, 2013 at 6:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I wonder where they are? Wait....what's that sound?
lol nice. Kudos times 10!
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 6:23 pm
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm by Sword of Christ.)
(October 21, 2013 at 9:27 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: In claiming something to be a miracle, is it necessary to know of all possible natural explanations for said event? If so, how can you ever claim it to be a miracle since you cannot possibly know of all possibilities? If not, how can you claim it to be a miracle? (miracle = suspension of the natural order)
There wouldn't be any possible natural physical explanation for the RESURRECTION OF OUR LORD ATTENDED WITH GLORY!
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Though we can't actually know that it happened you either believe it happened or you don't believe it happened.
Quote:If god commanded you to kill someone (for all intents and purposes let's assume we both agree that it is in fact god itself/himself/herself who did indeed tell you to do so), is following god's orders and killing them a moral action? Why or why not?
Better to assume that whatever is telling you to kill is not God. Though killing people can be moral like when they shot Osama Bin Laden.
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 6:53 pm
(October 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: (October 21, 2013 at 9:27 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: In claiming something to be a miracle, is it necessary to know of all possible natural explanations for said event? If so, how can you ever claim it to be a miracle since you cannot possibly know of all possibilities? If not, how can you claim it to be a miracle? (miracle = suspension of the natural order)
There wouldn't be any possible natural physical explanation for the RESURRECTION OF OUR LORD ATTENDED WITH GLORY!
:confused-fall:
Though we can't actually know that it happened you either believe it happened or you don't believe it happened.
Quote:If god commanded you to kill someone (for all intents and purposes let's assume we both agree that it is in fact god itself/himself/herself who did indeed tell you to do so), is following god's orders and killing them a moral action? Why or why not?
Better to assume that whatever is telling you to kill is not God. Though killing people can be moral like when they shot Osama Bin Laden.
No. You don't get it. If you were certain that it was indeed the god that told you to kill someone, would it be ok?
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RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 6:56 pm
Quote:Though we can't actually know that it happened you either believe it happened or you don't believe it happened.
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