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Flu Vaccine: Do it or not?
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RE: Flu Vaccine: Do it or not?
November 28, 2013 at 9:33 am
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2013 at 9:34 am by Chas.)
(November 27, 2013 at 3:23 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:(November 27, 2013 at 3:11 pm)Chas Wrote: That doesn't even make sense.Which part? The part where I give my personal experience, or the The part where you clearly do not understand the immune system or vaccinations. (November 27, 2013 at 8:19 pm)pocaracas Wrote: But the flu shot is always, at best, fit last year's flu virus... meaning that it may not be effective against this year's bug. Not true. The latest emerging strains are used.
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Science is not a subject, but a method. (November 28, 2013 at 9:33 am)Chas Wrote:(November 27, 2013 at 8:19 pm)pocaracas Wrote: But the flu shot is always, at best, fit last year's flu virus... meaning that it may not be effective against this year's bug. And where's the time to mass produce those?... RE: Flu Vaccine: Do it or not?
November 28, 2013 at 10:00 am
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2013 at 10:04 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
I have a flu shot every year because, as a diabetic, I'm more liable to get ill and/or complications from influenza viruses.
I think people also forget just how deadly influenza really is. As a virus it's responsible for millions of deaths each year. And let's not forget entities such as Spanish flu, which killed more people post WWI than those who died during the conflict (WIKI estimates up to 3-5% of the world's population). Love atheistforums.org? Consider becoming a patreon and helping towards our server costs.
I've never really had the flu bad. Seems wasteful for me to have the shot when even if I do get flu I seem to shrug it off pretty fast anyway. One of my uncles customers the other day spent ages moaning about the flu jab the other day. Said she refuses to get it. A terrible idea considering she's getting on a bit.
(November 28, 2013 at 9:28 am)pocaracas Wrote: I don't! If you have had chicken pox as a child, you have herpes living in your spinal column. There are more than one herpes virus, you know [Source: During microbiology class I made a presentation about Herpesviridae.] When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
RE: Flu Vaccine: Do it or not?
November 28, 2013 at 10:48 am
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2013 at 10:49 am by Ben Davis.)
(November 28, 2013 at 10:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I have a flu shot every year because, as a diabetic, I'm more liable to get ill and/or complications from influenza viruses.Influenza was the cause of my diabetes. It killed me. 3 times in 2 days. Fortunately we have the NHS here in the UK or else I'd have been a proper gonner. In fact, had that situation occurred 3 years earlier, the technology to revive me wouldn't have existed. For that, I have to thank the Elsie Bertram Diabetic Centre and DiabetesUK for the funds they pump into research every year as well as the care and expertise of the medical staff; even more important now that the coalition government have lowered NHS & research funding. Get the vaccination people!!!
Sum ergo sum
(November 28, 2013 at 10:43 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: So you've never had Chicken Pox? Never had a cold sore? You're a rare person indeed! Or mononucleosis? When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
(November 28, 2013 at 9:40 am)pocaracas Wrote:(November 28, 2013 at 9:33 am)Chas Wrote: Not true. The latest emerging strains are used. Oh, for fuck's sake, do you even Google? http://www.flu.gov/prevention-vaccinatio...velopment/#
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