(December 4, 2013 at 5:35 am)max-greece Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 5:29 am)DOS Wrote: Don't you believe in science and the power of genius of the scientists that will soon be able to relive the brains even after if it were flattened by truck?

No.

That's not science that's fantasy.

Heisenberg uncertainty principle and all that.

Maybe one day they could clone a brain from a single cell - but that wouldn't retain any of the memories or experiences of the original. It wouldn't be you any more than a twin is.

Might they one day find a way to back-up memories and experiences to restore them later to another brain - biological or machine? Dunno - maybe.

Does that get us any closer to heaven/god etc?

Before you use words like God or Heaven and Hell etc you should 1'st of all settle down a little question of whether an afterlife exists or not. heh?

(December 4, 2013 at 5:54 am)DOS Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 5:35 am)max-greece Wrote: No.

That's not science that's fantasy.

Heisenberg uncertainty principle and all that.

Maybe one day they could clone a brain from a single cell - but that wouldn't retain any of the memories or experiences of the original. It wouldn't be you any more than a twin is.

Might they one day find a way to back-up memories and experiences to restore them later to another brain - biological or machine? Dunno - maybe.

Does that get us any closer to heaven/god etc?

Before you use words like God or Heaven and Hell etc you should 1'st of all settle down a little question of whether an afterlife exists or not. heh?

Well the order of proofs are very much up to you, the believer. To date I haven't seen any convincing evidence of any of them.

I have to add that some of your comebacks read rather like they should have been coming from me rather than you.

I'd add further that its not so much of settling a little question of whether an afterlife exists or not as more to providing any evidence that the default position, it doesn't, is wrong.

In other words its not really a debate unless you have something new to bring to the table. This would be the same for reincarnation, Hades, Valhalla and so on and so forth - all things I guess you don't give too much time to disproving.

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: You atheist need to get out of your diapers and stop hating God.

Why?

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: All atheism has led to is genocide

The Final Solution to the Jewish Problem

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: apathy

Meh.

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: rape

Catholic priests unmasked: 'God doesn't like boys who cry'

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: snuff porn

The Horrors of the Church and its Holy Inquisition

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: death cults

Children abused, killed as witches in Nigeria

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: and gulags.

Gates To Hell - The Nazi Death Camps

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: Do the world a favor and accept Christ into your wretched hearts or live as the filthy fools you all are and you all will rightfully burn forever.

While you, of course, get to sit impaled on your filthy god's right middle finger. "Think like me or burn". How very Christian of you.

(December 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: I will pray for all of you drug addled atheist.

Knock yourself out.

No, seriously.

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(December 3, 2013 at 11:57 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: Prisons from what my pastor said are full of you filthy degenerates.

Ever stopped to wonder how he knows what prison's like?

And there's that Christian love again. You're really winning me over with your sales pitch, you silver-tongued rascal.

(December 3, 2013 at 11:57 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: All of you therefore deserve damnation to to be eternally burnt and ravaged by demons in the ultimate fires of HELL!

Wow, and we're the filthy degenerates?

(December 3, 2013 at 11:57 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: If you repent and get off your asses and on your filthy knees and admit you are evil and accept Christ into your hearts you can join the LORD in heaven and enjoy celebrating the majesty of the LORD with your fellows in Christ in glory forever!!

Ok, did that. What now?

(December 3, 2013 at 11:57 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: Just pray and you will be amazed at the difference Jesus can make in your life.

If I pray for you to shut up and go away, will it work?

Quote:(Yesterday 21:04)WashedinChristblood Wrote:
apathy

Meh.

Oh fuck that nearly killed me. Someone put that in the thread where these things are saved for God's sakes.

(December 4, 2013 at 6:20 am)max-greece Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 5:54 am)DOS Wrote: Before you use words like God or Heaven and Hell etc you should 1'st of all settle down a little question of whether an afterlife exists or not. heh?

Well the order of proofs are very much up to you, the believer. To date I haven't seen any convincing evidence of any of them.

I have to add that some of your comebacks read rather like they should have been coming from me rather than you.

I'd add further that its not so much of settling a little question of whether an afterlife exists or not as more to providing any evidence that the default position, it doesn't, is wrong.

In other words its not really a debate unless you have something new to bring to the table. This would be the same for reincarnation, Hades, Valhalla and so on and so forth - all things I guess you don't give too much time to disproving.

Atheism merely preaches a negation
Believer is believing in God and afterlife etc
Mixing God and Santa Klaus is rather childish
It is a matter of science that should be brining something new, discover new, and if you're the man of science you should undertake a first step towards understanding whether afterlife exists and the so called SOUL is eternal or not and settling down that a little question that tortures the humanity for so many centuries as to whether God exists or not.

What the hell is going on here?

(December 3, 2013 at 11:57 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: Atheist rape the whole of humanity when you guys get the chance. Prisons from what my pastor said are full of you filthy degenerates. Human nature can only lead to selfish hedonism and cruelty. You atheist do not even know what love feels like or is. All of you therefore deserve damnation to to be eternally burnt and ravaged by demons in the ultimate fires of HELL! If you repent and get off your asses and on your filthy knees and admit you are evil and accept Christ into your hearts you can join the LORD in heaven and enjoy celebrating the majesty of the LORD with your fellows in Christ in glory forever!! Just pray and you will be amazed at the difference Jesus can make in your life.

All this, coming from a guy who's name literally tells us he's bathed in someone's blood.

You people are fucking psychos.

(December 4, 2013 at 5:54 am)DOS Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 5:35 am)max-greece Wrote: No.

That's not science that's fantasy.

Heisenberg uncertainty principle and all that.

Maybe one day they could clone a brain from a single cell - but that wouldn't retain any of the memories or experiences of the original. It wouldn't be you any more than a twin is.

Might they one day find a way to back-up memories and experiences to restore them later to another brain - biological or machine? Dunno - maybe.

Does that get us any closer to heaven/god etc?

Before you use words like God or Heaven and Hell etc you should 1'st of all settle down a little question of whether an afterlife exists or not. heh?

If you're claiming that an afterlife exists, then you need to prove it.

We don't have to do shit.

Good luck! We're all rooting for ya!

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(December 4, 2013 at 3:40 am)DOS Wrote: Excuse there is no evidence as of yet that you will die soon!!! No evidence! But you will be dead very soon - fact!

Wut?

I'm guessing English isn't your first language because that didn't make any sense.

So, we die, true. I don't see what point you're trying to make, here, DOS.

COS

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(December 3, 2013 at 8:24 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote:

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I doubt that the atheist can ever explain something simply. All you atheist do is play games with semantics and hate on Christians who are trying to save you all from an eternity of hellfire. All you atheist spend so much time fantasizing about rape and snuff porn so maybe you think hell will not be that bad. I however have seen hell in nightmares when I was struggling with doubt years ago. The LORD loved me enough to send visions of hell to keep me. To keep me in his loving embrace. In hell people are tortured and burn in fire nonstop. Demons constantly rip people's wretched and filthy flesh from their bones, which quickly regenerates so they can endure the horrible ordeal they earned through sin over and over again for eternity. Please stop killing babies in abortion clinics and allow Jesus to enter you. You will no longer live wretched meaningless hedonistic lives at the cost to those who love you. I WILL PRAY FOR ALL THE ATHEIST.

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(December 4, 2013 at 8:00 am)DOS Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 6:20 am)max-greece Wrote: Well the order of proofs are very much up to you, the believer. To date I haven't seen any convincing evidence of any of them.

I have to add that some of your comebacks read rather like they should have been coming from me rather than you.

I'd add further that its not so much of settling a little question of whether an afterlife exists or not as more to providing any evidence that the default position, it doesn't, is wrong.

In other words its not really a debate unless you have something new to bring to the table. This would be the same for reincarnation, Hades, Valhalla and so on and so forth - all things I guess you don't give too much time to disproving.

Atheism merely preaches a negation
Believer is believing in God and afterlife etc
Mixing God and Santa Klaus is rather childish
It is a matter of science that should be brining something new, discover new, and if you're the man of science you should undertake a first step towards understanding whether afterlife exists and the so called SOUL is eternal or not and settling down that a little question that tortures the humanity for so many centuries as to whether God exists or not.

Oh dear.

Atheism doesn't preach. It is, as you say, a negation. It says I do not believe in (insert relevant religion/deity/belief according to the theist in question) as there is no evidence.

Atheist responses to theist assertions might be interpreted as preaching, of course, but that would be incorrect.

Atheists, of their own volition also, on occasion, give their reasoning behind their lack of faith. Again this is not really preaching.

I don't recall bringing up Santa Klaus in any of my posts - perhaps you are confused?

Now science. Good news. Science is continuously and continually discovering new things at, seemingly, an ever increasing pace. We have learned more about life on earth in the last 30 years than we knew to that point throughout the whole of our history. At the same time we have pushed the boundaries of knowledge to the very origins of the universe.

We live in exciting times but to date no-one has come up with any indication of an afterlife, soul or deity. The default conclusion is therefore the atheist conclusion and will remain so unless or until such time as science demonstrates that any of them can/do exist.

(December 4, 2013 at 8:00 am)DOS Wrote: Atheism merely preaches a negation

Huh? Hang on, I'm gonna need some help to understand that statement: