(December 9, 2013 at 6:56 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:

(December 9, 2013 at 6:45 am)daandaan Wrote: u know its u religious who r demanding 99.9 of the abortions??

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Your grammar makes the baby Jesus cry.

havnt u learned yet the fact that the earth isnt flat ??

im from aN completely other part of the GLOBE....

HAR HAR HAR HR HAR

Please make it stop!

English is a beautiful language. Why must you abuse it so?

Dandaan, seriously? How old are you 6? 7? Please write properly punctuated sentences with all words spelled to the best of your ability

(December 9, 2013 at 6:57 am)Lion IRC Wrote:

(December 9, 2013 at 6:29 am)max-greece Wrote: So you answered your own question as to why you should be supporting unmarried mothers.

Of COURSE I answered it. It was a rhetorical question to highlight the gross hypocrisy of ppl who say that men have no business in a woman's pregnancy.

As we are talking about your contributions through the tax system you still have no business in it, any more than you do for a funded cancer treatment, the development of some new weapons systems for the military or anything else your government chooses to fund.

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Quote:What you have not understood is that no-one "likes" abortion.

I beg to differ. It is a great convenience to millions of people every year.

Your opinions do not surprise me - its all part and parcel of being Christian - always assume the worst of people.

Quote: It is the last ditch choice of the desperate and, I have no doubt, a fairly horrible thing to go through for the mother.

How come men who support abortion on demand are allowed to take part in the abortion debate but when a man opposes it, suddenly it's a hands-off topic for women only?
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I am not supporting abortion on demand. I am supporting women however they decide, en mass. If a woman determines she wants an abortion that is her decision - if she decided to have a baby that is also her decision. This isn't complicated.

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Quote:If, however, the choice is living an unloved, futile life whilst ruining the mother's life then it is the lesser evil.

Did you just use the word evil to describe abortion?

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Yes - and perhaps now that I have answered some more of your questions you see why. Its not a nice thing, it is, however, necessary as no form of contraception is perfect.

(December 9, 2013 at 7:10 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Dandaan, seriously? How old are you 6? 7? Please write properly punctuated sentences with all words spelled to the best of your ability

WELL THIS IS TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES---- LEFT ------................

(December 9, 2013 at 7:02 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:

Quote:How come men who support abortion on demand are allowed to take part in the abortion debate but when a man opposes it, suddenly it's a hands-off topic for women only?

That would be because men are not supporting abortion on demand, they are supporting the woman's right to decide if she has an abortion.

What part of the expression "on-demand" is inconsistent with the expression ...woman's right to an abortion

...oh no Lion IRC is making a straw man argument! We aren't in favour of abortion on demand! We have an entirely different position to that because we support a woman's RIGHT to have an abortion whenever she wants without any interference from anyone.

(December 9, 2013 at 7:48 am)Lion IRC Wrote:

(December 9, 2013 at 7:02 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: That would be because men are not supporting abortion on demand, they are supporting the woman's right to decide if she has an abortion.

What part of the expression "on-demand" is inconsistent with the expression ...woman's right to an abortion

...oh no Lion IRC is making a straw man argument! We aren't in favour of abortion on demand! We have an entirely different position to that because we support a woman's RIGHT to have an abortion whenever she wants without any interference from anyone.

AS I STATED BEFORE ...I HOPE U LL GET RAPED BY A MUSLIM ....

I'm so happy that the biggest State in Australia, NSW, recently legislated to increase protection of the unborn by recognising their legal "personhood".

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(December 9, 2013 at 7:52 am)daandaan Wrote:

(December 9, 2013 at 7:48 am)Lion IRC Wrote:

What part of the expression "on-demand" is inconsistent with the expression ...woman's right to an abortion

...oh no Lion IRC is making a straw man argument! We aren't in favour of abortion on demand! We have an entirely different position to that because we support a woman's RIGHT to have an abortion whenever she wants without any interference from anyone.

AS I STATED BEFORE ...I HOPE U LL GET RAPED BY A MUSLIM ....

Are you a Muslim?

(December 9, 2013 at 7:52 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I'm so happy that the biggest State in Australia, NSW, recently legislated to increase protection of the unborn by recognising their legal "personhood".

SO A WOMAN HAS NO RIGHTS ..AS IN THE BIBLE IS STATED ...SHE HAS TO SHUT UP , AND PRODUCE CHILDREN WITH OR WITHOUT HER CONCENT ..

(December 8, 2013 at 10:23 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 6:57 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: A child and a foetus are different. A child has already been born and knows it's alive.

(December 8, 2013 at 6:55 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Nope. Not wanting a baby is sufficient...

:thinking:

Why do you have to decide whether you want the baby BEFORE they are born? Whats the difference between throwing an unwanted newborn baby in the trash and throwing an unborn baby in the trash?

Holding a human baby in your arms or holding him in your womb. Whats the difference?

A newborn baby isn't part of my body and is a person with rights. An unborn baby is part of my body and I am a person with rights.

(December 9, 2013 at 12:09 am)Lion IRC Wrote:

(December 8, 2013 at 11:58 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Y'know, if we could all throw a big effort behind excellent birth control free for everybody, we could seriously reduce abortions, which everybody wants.

Abortion IS birth control. You are still taking away something many people regard as their "right"

The term "Birth Control" refers to Contraception. Contraception helps prevent unwanted pregnancies, which can reduce the need for abortion by up to 99.9% depending on the method. It's fucking awesome.

(December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am)Lion IRC Wrote: If a womans reproductive choices are hers alone and nothing to do with men, how come I have to pay taxes to support unmarried moms?

Because that's how a functioning society works. Everyone puts money in the pot for everyone. If Churches paid their fair share of taxes, you could pay less toward helping those less advantaged than you. Aren't you a Christian? Did Jesus tell you to give away ALL your money to help the needy?

(December 9, 2013 at 6:11 am)Lion IRC Wrote: You're dead right about that! Abortions do skyrocket when people stop caring.

Should I care about what happens to unwanted babies or not?

You wanna know the one thing supporters of abortion-on-demand all have in common?

THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN BORN!

Yep. Because my mother chose to have me. Had she had me against her will, that would be awful and I'd hate myself for ruining her life. Imagine being an unwanted child? Like all those who are put up on ebay (or whatever the bog adoption agencies call themselves), I'd probably kill myself if I found out I wasn't even wanted and my mother was forced to go through pregnancy and labour wothout wanting to. Wouldn't you?

(December 9, 2013 at 6:57 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I beg to differ. It is a great convenience to millions of people every year.

Why does that mean they like it?

(December 9, 2013 at 6:57 am)Lion IRC Wrote: How come men who support abortion on demand are allowed to take part in the abortion debate but when a man opposes it, suddenly it's a hands-off topic for women only?

Because those men who "support abortion" are actually supporting a woman's right to have control over her own body. You know, because they have an ounce of respect for us and our rights. Unlike men like you who seem to think a woman should be at home producing babies like fucking farm animals.