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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 12:53 am
(December 26, 2013 at 12:30 am)Esquilax Wrote: (December 26, 2013 at 12:09 am)snowtracks Wrote: the days of genesis is an unspecified periods of time. why? because it harmonizes the text with science.
So, essentially, because the consequences of reading the text for what it actually says would render the position you want to believe ridiculous, therefore interpreting it to mean something it doesn't is correct?
You just admitted it. You know what that's called? Spin.
words have meaning based on context. like the word 'read'.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 12:58 am
(December 27, 2013 at 12:53 am)snowtracks Wrote: words have meaning based on context. like the word 'read'.
Right, but you need to justify those contextual meanings based upon the actual intent and meaning the author was intending. Your only justification was that interpreting the word day like you have makes the bible less scientifically ridiculous. That's not sufficient.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 2:55 am
(December 26, 2013 at 10:55 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (December 26, 2013 at 4:47 pm)orogenicman Wrote: The alternative (which you apparently refuse to do) is to do something about your functional illiteracy. Since that isn't going to happen, you should see a shrink to deal with your delusions.
In the mean time, have you ever wondered why the only people who believe the book of genesis is anything but a work of mythology are evangelical Christians? Ever wonder why the people who wrote it (The Jews) don't see it like you do?
well that makes sense, you hiding behind a video.
What, exactly, do you believe I am hiding?
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 8:12 am
Didn't the last Ice Age finish 10,000 years ago?
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 8:19 am
It as about 11,000 years ago.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 8:21 am
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(December 27, 2013 at 8:19 am)orogenicman Wrote: It as about 11,000 years ago.
Really? Well give humanity about 1,000 years to acknowledge the change and yeah, I can understand where the uneducated would get their precious 10,000 years from
 religions couldn't even get THAT right
According to archaeological evidence the last "Ice Age" didn't end in Finland until 8,900 years age orogenicman.
http://www.history-of-finland.com/timeline.htm
Some fucking omnipotent deity! Can't get the date of the last ice age right let alone anything else 
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 8:23 pm
(December 26, 2013 at 4:47 pm)orogenicman Wrote: The alternative (which you apparently refuse to do) is to do something about your functional illiteracy.
…says the guy who has had an embarrassing amount of difficulty understanding the basic concepts contained within everyone’s responses to him.
Quote: Since that isn't going to happen, you should see a shrink to deal with your delusions.
This is what people always say when they just got destroyed in a debate.
Quote: In the mean time, have you ever wondered why the only people who believe the book of genesis is anything but a work of mythology are evangelical Christians? Ever wonder why the people who wrote it (The Jews) don't see it like you do?
You can’t even get this right I see. According to Freundel of Contemporary Orthodox Judaism's response to modernity many Orthodox Jewish thinkers still accept a literal six day creation (also supported by Wikipedia’s article on Young-Earth Creationism). Secondly, many Muslims and Reformed Christians and nearly all Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses also accept a literal interpretation of Genesis. How many people believe something to be true is ultimately irrelevant but I just wanted to ensure that you had your facts straight since you usually do not.
(December 27, 2013 at 8:12 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Didn't the last Ice Age finish 10,000 years ago?
…according to the current deep time model yes, give or take a thousand years. They shift these dates around a lot but then tell everyone they are sure about them this time. 
(December 27, 2013 at 8:21 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Really? Well give humanity about 1,000 years to acknowledge the change and yeah, I can understand where the uneducated would get their precious 10,000 years from
religions couldn't even get THAT right
According to archaeological evidence the last "Ice Age" didn't end in Finland until 8,900 years age orogenicman.
http://www.history-of-finland.com/timeline.htm
Some fucking omnipotent deity! Can't get the date of the last ice age right let alone anything else
You cannot assume a deep time interpretation of the evidence and then use that to argue for the validity of using a deep time interpretation of the evidence. Creationists have a perfectly legitimate timetable for the last Ice Age. Secondly, I am unaware of any prominent creationist who is arguing for the Earth being 10,000 years old, I cannot figure out where you all keep getting that figure from. It’s probably simply due to a general ignorance regarding the position.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 8:38 pm
This thread appears "old" yet it's still going.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 9:16 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 8:38 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: This thread appears "old" yet it's still going.
It's not really going. Wardork still appears animated because it was so well fossilized.
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RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 27, 2013 at 9:51 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 9:16 pm)Chuck Wrote: It's not really going. Wardork still appears animated because it was so well fossilized.
What are you? 12?
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