(December 31, 2013 at 3:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Esq, the afterlife is not so different from this one with respect to choice. In this life a drunk will choose the comfort of drink over the love of his family. The belligerent chooses to let rage fill his heart rather than compassion. The rake chooses whoring instead of conjugal pleasure. Each truly believes their compulsions are in some way preferable to the good and wholesome permitted pleasures. Each is in the hell of their own unrepentant choosing. Death only confirms these choices.

You mean I am going to spend eternity experimenting with drugs, rimming teenage whores and watching Pirate movies.

RESULT!

(January 1, 2014 at 11:02 am)Godschild Wrote: @ StoryBook, I see you gave a kudos to a young kid who has no idea what being a Christian is all about, a kid who cares not to find truth, he's only interested in ridiculing Christians. If this is all you care about then why were we even having a conversation, by you not responding to my last post and letting someone else speak for you I take it your purpose is no different than his.

GC

Quote:@StoryBook, I see you gave a kudos to someone whom I know nothing about save that he's an atheist who might just know everything about what being a Christian is but finds it laughably lacking, who was interjecting genuine answers and questions to which I decided not to reply and instead gave a sanctimonious unaimed post to you. If you dare to give someone else a nod for speaking their mind on a public forum then why are we having this conversation? By you not immediately responding to my last post and acknowledging someone who interjected I'm going to act like a whiny bitch.

GC

Fixed that for you. If you would bother to look at my post I wasn't ridiculing anyone but your god for seeming to be close minded. If you would take a scary step outside of your pet worldview and consider the options you might just see that as well. In a series of infinite possibilities your god chose to make himself human and martyr himself. If that's not bloodthirsty close minded thinking I don't know what is.

"The bible is the claim not the proof?" That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. The Holy Scriptures can serve as evidence. The only question is for what are they evidence. That's like saying the Doppler effect is the claim not the proof. Repeating ignorant aphorisms just makes you sound even more ignorant.

(January 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: "The bible is the claim not the proof?" That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. The Holy Scriptures can serve as evidence. The only question is for what are they evidence. That's like saying the Doppler effect is the claim not the proof. Repeating ignorant aphorisms just makes you sound even more ignorant.

You Christians see your bible as evidence but the rest of the world does not. You claim it is the holy word of god, great happy for you, care to present me with the evidence that it is? Then we'll talk.

(January 1, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote:

(January 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: "The bible is the claim not the proof?" That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. The Holy Scriptures can serve as evidence. The only question is for what are they evidence. That's like saying the Doppler effect is the claim not the proof. Repeating ignorant aphorisms just makes you sound even more ignorant.

You Christians see your bible as evidence but the rest of the world does not. You claim it is the holy word of god, great happy for you, care to present me with the evidence that it is? Then we'll talk.

Evidence was brought that the Bible was not the word of God due to scientifical errors. This is based on the assumption that an all knowing creator can't be wrong. If you create the Earth in 4 Billion years (shame on fucking you for taking so long) you cannot lie then and say you did it in 6 days! If you do that you're not God you're a lying Jewish jerk-off who wrote God's words with his own hands.

(January 1, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote:

(January 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: "The bible is the claim not the proof?" That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. The Holy Scriptures can serve as evidence. The only question is for what are they evidence. That's like saying the Doppler effect is the claim not the proof. Repeating ignorant aphorisms just makes you sound even more ignorant.

You Christians see your bible as evidence but the rest of the world does not. You claim it is the holy word of god, great happy for you, care to present me with the evidence that it is? Then we'll talk.

Since you lack the mental capacity to see beyond your own Christophobia, I must demonstrate to you your lack of imagination. The bible could be evidence for any of the following:

The existence of the Q gospel.
Political structure of the Roman empire.
Confirming the location of various historical sites.
The role of slavery in ancient Hebrew society.
Etc., etc.

As you can see the biblical texts can serve as evidence supporting a wide range of theories, both religious AND secular.

I will now accept your admission of guilt for mindlessly parroting the stupidity of others.

(January 2, 2014 at 10:41 am)ChadWooters Wrote:

(January 1, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: You Christians see your bible as evidence but the rest of the world does not. You claim it is the holy word of god, great happy for you, care to present me with the evidence that it is? Then we'll talk.

Since you lack the mental capacity to see beyond your own Christophobia, I must demonstrate to you your lack of imagination. The bible could be evidence for any of the following:

The existence of the Q gospel.
Political structure of the Roman empire.
Confirming the location of various historical sites.
The role of slavery in ancient Hebrew society.
Etc., etc.

As you can see the biblical texts can serve as evidence supporting a wide range of theories, both religious AND secular.

I will now accept your admission of guilt for mindlessly parroting the stupidity of others.

You're right. The Bible can serve as evidence for any number of interesting but otherwise mundane claims. It's telling that you so carefully avoided mentioning any of the major doctrinal claims of Christianity for which the Bible is allegedly evidence. When people "mindlessly parrot" the saw that the Bible is the claim, not the evidence, I'm pretty sure it's the supernatural stuff they have in mind -- you know: resurrections and other extraordinary claims.

Oh, and Christophobia?

Even in the case of supernatural theories the bible is not a claim per se. The bible is used as evidence to support various theories, for better or worse.