This makes complete sense to me. Men don't want to be with women they find unattractive, at least not as far as a relationship goes. When it comes to fucking I'm open to all types. I don't mind bigger girls at all, even if she's got a bit of a messed up face I'm open to it. But even though I'll fuck an ugly chick, I won't date one.

Harsh. I haven't read this thread yet but it just occurred to me to ask how we're defining an attractive girl? I've met plenty that were attractive because of the way the animate their body, even though they didn't have classic leading lady looks. Then I once went on a date with a woman based on her picture in a personals add. The picture was accurate but she was stupid, self-absorbed and petty. I paid and left early while she went on babbling about what all she was looking for.

Of course men are happier with attractive women, just as I'm sure women are happy with attractive men. The problem here is the metric for what constitutes attractiveness, not the statement itself. I, for one, am attracted to intellect and charm moreso than I am body types, and even in terms of what I find physically attractive I'm not just stalking for the supermodel ideal, because people can be attractive for more than being skinny with big tits.

(January 3, 2014 at 4:43 am)Esquilax Wrote: Of course men are happier with attractive women, just as I'm sure women are happy with attractive men. The problem here is the metric for what constitutes attractiveness, not the statement itself. I, for one, am attracted to intellect and charm moreso than I am body types, and even in terms of what I find physically attractive I'm not just stalking for the supermodel ideal, because people can be attractive for more than being skinny with big tits.

Let's change the rules here a little bit. Why do the choices have to be "either / or"? There's plenty of ladies who have the entire package, the lean shapely Supermodel with big boobs who has both charm and intellect....and be honest, if not for the physical attractiveness guys aren't going to approach a lady for conversation....and the same goes for the women too. If they don't find the guy initially attractive they're not going to give the dude a second look.

(January 3, 2014 at 12:48 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Sorry I just find it hard to swallow that you'd leave her if something happened to her, just because she's not attractive to you anymore.
Like say she gets an infection in her jaw or ear or something, something totally feasable within her lifetime--and it creates a facial palsy. She's still your wife but half her face is limp and she can't smile, soooo you just leave her? What happened to in sickness and in health? Or lets say she gets put on a medication pertinent to her well-being --like prednisone-- and gains a bunch of weight? Or if she has a baby and she packs some extra pounds and a full belly scar having your children? Just gonna abandon the ugly B for a new hottie, huh?

Who says I'd leave her? Once I fall in love with her I'd find her beautiful no matter what. She's just got to be damn hot for me to fall in love with her in the first place.

(January 3, 2014 at 8:47 am)A Theist Wrote: ....and be honest, if not for the physical attractiveness guys aren't going to approach a lady for conversation....and the same goes for the women too. If they don't find the guy initially attractive they're not going to give the dude a second look.

I agree and disagree. I definitely agree that a woman's attractiveness is the whole reason we seek them out in the first place. Typically we (guys) are the pursuer, and we don't see a girl across the bar, party, club, etc; and hope that she has a good personality when we go to talk to her. We think she looks cute so we make our move, it's as simple as that.

As far as woman and their attraction to men, I feel as though it generally has less to do with how you look then it does about other qualities. If a chick is just looking for a hookup then yes, how you physically look will be important. But in a relationship most women are looking for some swagger, charm, confidence, status. Essentially as men we have other qualities that can override our physical looks in the eyes of women.

I admit to being vain, but not shallow. Maybe my standards are too high, but I want a girl with at least some looks who has a personality I can relate to or with, something to mesh. Obviously, valley girls are right out for me...

(January 3, 2014 at 12:19 pm)plaincents822 Wrote:

(January 3, 2014 at 8:47 am)A Theist Wrote: ....and be honest, if not for the physical attractiveness guys aren't going to approach a lady for conversation....and the same goes for the women too. If they don't find the guy initially attractive they're not going to give the dude a second look.

As far as woman and their attraction to men, I feel as though it generally has less to do with how you look then it does about other qualities. If a chick is just looking for a hookup then yes, how you physically look will be important. But in a relationship most women are looking for some swagger, charm, confidence, status. Essentially as men we have other qualities that can override our physical looks in the eyes of women.

hmmm...the swagger and the confidence are part of the attraction for the women. But I still have to say that it's the physical attraction that first catches their eye. On the other hand, despite the initial attraction, if the guy doesn't show swagger, confidence and charm, like you said, then the woman will quickly lose interest. As far as status though, I think a woman is more interested in a secure life with the guy she chooses for her self. I also think that a woman loves a man who can make her laugh.

I'm just sayin if your reasoning for being with anYone is so shallow, you A. don't deserve them, and B. are too immature to keep a relationship. Obviously A Theist, you've got more goin on than "she's hot so I fuck her". Aren't you, a theist after all? I'd assume she would be also, and there are certain religious tenets that you would share that make your relationship feasible. I think its arrogant and ignorant to go procreating such a belief in younger generations, when we all know its just bullshit.

I've met and dated men whom I initially put a "no" on their forehead, but its always always the personality that created the attraction. Intelligence, swagger, personality traits I find admireable.. I don't just initially look at someone and think, "I'd fuck them or I wouldn't fuck them". I look at the whole picture.

Maybe women are just more progressive like that. I know for a fact, those types of relationships based on more than physical attraction (though it is crucial), have a better chance at longevity and positive outcomes. I am going to go ahead and say that some both women and men have different levels of maturity that dictates how they find a mate.

(January 3, 2014 at 1:26 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I'm just sayin if your reasoning for being with anYone is so shallow, you A. don't deserve them, and B. are too immature to keep a relationship. Obviously A Theist, you've got more goin on than "she's hot so I fuck her". Aren't you, a theist after all? I'd assume she would be also, and there are certain religious tenets that you would share that make your relationship feasible. I think its arrogant and ignorant to go procreating such a belief in younger generations, when we all know its just bullshit.

I've met and dated men whom I initially put a "no" on their forehead, but its always always the personality that created the attraction. Intelligence, swagger, personality traits I find admireable.. I don't just initially look at someone and think, "I'd fuck them or I wouldn't fuck them". I look at the whole picture.

Maybe women are just more progressive like that. I know for a fact, those types of relationships based on more than physical attraction (though it is crucial), have a better chance at longevity and positive outcomes. I am going to go ahead and say that some both women and men have different levels of maturity that dictates how they find a mate.

It's not immature, it is realistic. Who wants to be with someone they don't find attractive? Also, I could never fall in love with someone unless I found them hot.