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RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 4:39 am (This post was last modified: January 10, 2014 at 4:40 am by Jacob(smooth).)
I would say because almost all the films are dull, illogical, inconsistent, cloying and terrible, and the people who've read the books are insufferably smug about the fact, and act as if it somehow excuses the shoddy films.
I mean, wizard duel in lotr, people being hurled about, hit wit sticks, walls floor etc. Wizard duels in Harry potter, two people pointing twigs at each other until something akin to a downloading bar travels from left to right (or right to left). It's like a film version of the struggle for better download speeds!
No Christian can speak for all Christians, but that's why this one doesn't like it.
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RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 4:43 am
(January 10, 2014 at 3:47 am)hobie Wrote: “When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you."
Leviticus 19:26-28 ESV
Interesting. The closest fit to the bill described above is........
Jesus!
And he ain't in the Harry Potter movies.
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RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 4:57 am (This post was last modified: January 10, 2014 at 4:58 am by xr34p3rx.)
(January 10, 2014 at 4:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I would say because almost all the films are dull, illogical, inconsistent, cloying and terrible, and the people who've read the books are insufferably smug about the fact, and act as if it somehow excuses the shoddy films.
I mean, wizard duel in lotr, people being hurled about, hit wit sticks, walls floor etc. Wizard duels in Harry potter, two people pointing twigs at each other until something akin to a downloading bar travels from left to right (or right to left). It's like a film version of the struggle for better download speeds!
No Christian can speak for all Christians, but that's why this one doesn't like it.
I think you missed the point of my thread Lol
(January 10, 2014 at 4:31 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Quoting scripture is all they can do.
Ask him about the verses where god kills everyone.
They just chose to ignore it hah. But he is good after all.... Sarcasm
xR34P3Rx it isn't in our nature to think of a God, it is in our nature to seek answers and the concept of God is most influenced in this world.
RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 5:15 am
(January 10, 2014 at 4:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I would say because almost all the films are dull, illogical, inconsistent, cloying and terrible, and the people who've read the books are insufferably smug about the fact, and act as if it somehow excuses the shoddy films.
I mean, wizard duel in lotr, people being hurled about, hit wit sticks, walls floor etc. Wizard duels in Harry potter, two people pointing twigs at each other until something akin to a downloading bar travels from left to right (or right to left). It's like a film version of the struggle for better download speeds!
No Christian can speak for all Christians, but that's why this one doesn't like it.
Traitor! Long live Queen Rowling! And I know the movies after 3 suck!
RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 10:35 am
(January 10, 2014 at 4:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I would say because almost all the films are dull, illogical, inconsistent, cloying and terrible, and the people who've read the books are insufferably smug about the fact, and act as if it somehow excuses the shoddy films.
I mean, wizard duel in lotr, people being hurled about, hit wit sticks, walls floor etc. Wizard duels in Harry potter, two people pointing twigs at each other until something akin to a downloading bar travels from left to right (or right to left). It's like a film version of the struggle for better download speeds!
No Christian can speak for all Christians, but that's why this one doesn't like it.
I watched those movies tons of times and I still don't know that the hell happened.
RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 11:18 am
(January 10, 2014 at 3:18 am)xr34p3rx Wrote: So let me emphasize the reason of this post.
For the people who dont know my background (as probably no one does), i live in a christian home, father is a pastor and when they see me watching harry potter, they say its "bad". I ask why? Its just bad...
I fail to understand why people think its wrong or in some way have a correlation with satan...?
its like saying a hammer is bad...? why dont they say the same to Hulk or Captain America...? maybe Thor as well? its all fantasy!
This is most directed to theists but my fellow atheists are free to comment
It has to do with the use of sorcery. We are told to stay away from sorcery not because it is fantasy, but because there is a power that drives sorcery that is not of God.
In other words there are some aspects of Harry potter translate into real world applications, and yet because it is paired with fantasy all of it is trivialized and dismissed as harmless, when in fact what has happened is a general desensitization to the whole subject of sorcery has happened making the young to feel comfortable around the powers and practice of real world sorcery.
I know the knee jerk response to taunt what I have said and trivialize the warning, but wouldn't that be the point I was making? Because wizards have been made into fictional characters it allows pop culture to assume all references to sorcery must also be to fiction, and to think otherwise is foolishness. When in fact satan is real, He is the master of this domain, and does indeed have the power to influence and effect those under his rule. when done in conjunction with man this is known as sorcery.
RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 11:32 am
(January 10, 2014 at 11:18 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 10, 2014 at 3:18 am)xr34p3rx Wrote: So let me emphasize the reason of this post.
For the people who dont know my background (as probably no one does), i live in a christian home, father is a pastor and when they see me watching harry potter, they say its "bad". I ask why? Its just bad...
I fail to understand why people think its wrong or in some way have a correlation with satan...?
its like saying a hammer is bad...? why dont they say the same to Hulk or Captain America...? maybe Thor as well? its all fantasy!
This is most directed to theists but my fellow atheists are free to comment
It has to do with the use of sorcery. We are told to stay away from sorcery not because it is fantasy, but because there is a power that drives sorcery that is not of God.
In other words there are some aspects of Harry potter translate into real world applications, and yet because it is paired with fantasy all of it is trivialized and dismissed as harmless, when in fact what has happened is a general desensitization to the whole subject of sorcery has happened making the young to feel comfortable around the powers and practice of real world sorcery.
I know the knee jerk response to taunt what I have said and trivialize the warning, but wouldn't that be the point I was making? Because wizards have been made into fictional characters it allows pop culture to assume all references to sorcery must also be to fiction, and to think otherwise is foolishness. When in fact satan is real, He is the master of this domain, and does indeed have the power to influence and effect those under his rule. when done in conjunction with man this is known as sorcery.
Just like GOD, sorcery does not exist.
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RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 11:47 am
(January 10, 2014 at 4:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: two people pointing twigs at each other until something akin to a downloading bar travels from left to right (or right to left). It's like a film version of the struggle for better download speeds!
Well played, sir, well played.
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RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 11:47 am
(January 10, 2014 at 11:18 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 10, 2014 at 3:18 am)xr34p3rx Wrote: So let me emphasize the reason of this post.
For the people who dont know my background (as probably no one does), i live in a christian home, father is a pastor and when they see me watching harry potter, they say its "bad". I ask why? Its just bad...
I fail to understand why people think its wrong or in some way have a correlation with satan...?
its like saying a hammer is bad...? why dont they say the same to Hulk or Captain America...? maybe Thor as well? its all fantasy!
This is most directed to theists but my fellow atheists are free to comment
It has to do with the use of sorcery. We are told to stay away from sorcery not because it is fantasy, but because there is a power that drives sorcery that is not of God.
In other words there are some aspects of Harry potter translate into real world applications, and yet because it is paired with fantasy all of it is trivialized and dismissed as harmless, when in fact what has happened is a general desensitization to the whole subject of sorcery has happened making the young to feel comfortable around the powers and practice of real world sorcery.
I know the knee jerk response to taunt what I have said and trivialize the warning, but wouldn't that be the point I was making? Because wizards have been made into fictional characters it allows pop culture to assume all references to sorcery must also be to fiction, and to think otherwise is foolishness. When in fact satan is real, He is the master of this domain, and does indeed have the power to influence and effect those under his rule. when done in conjunction with man this is known as sorcery.
Wouldn't that make god partially responsible for negative consequences of sorcery given he could eliminate it all together extremely easily because of his abilities as the first and last? To me this seems akin to leaving a burner on with a small child in the kitchen and telling said child not to play near the stove.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
RE: Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"
January 10, 2014 at 11:48 am
(January 10, 2014 at 11:18 am)Drich Wrote: It has to do with the use of sorcery. We are told to stay away from sorcery not because it is fantasy, but because there is a power that drives sorcery that is not of God.
In other words there are some aspects of Harry potter translate into real world applications, and yet because it is paired with fantasy all of it is trivialized and dismissed as harmless, when in fact what has happened is a general desensitization to the whole subject of sorcery has happened making the young to feel comfortable around the powers and practice of real world sorcery.
I know the knee jerk response to taunt what I have said and trivialize the warning, but wouldn't that be the point I was making? Because wizards have been made into fictional characters it allows pop culture to assume all references to sorcery must also be to fiction, and to think otherwise is foolishness. When in fact satan is real, He is the master of this domain, and does indeed have the power to influence and effect those under his rule. when done in conjunction with man this is known as sorcery.
