(January 8, 2014 at 9:54 pm)Sejanus Wrote: Around the forum from time to time, I've seen posts about how atheism is only the rejection of the god(s) claim. In such posts, people have said that it is possible to be an atheist and still be spiritual.
Atheism, in my understanding, is the lack of belief in god(s), due to the fact that there is no evidence for them.
My question is this: are there any atheists on the forum who believe in anything for which there is no evidence? because if you do, I hope you can see how this is intellectually dishonest.

its not dishonest and atheism is only directed tot he god claims, not the spiritual. you can be "atheist" towards spiritualism but i myself believe in "spirits", and i have true video footage, no prank.

So yea, i tend to believe only what has evidence, at least now that i became an atheist.

(January 11, 2014 at 1:45 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I am going to go ahead and state my craziest belief. I believe that people have seen objects that are genuinely unidentified flying objects and that these should be investigated via the scientific method with out preconceived notions about where they come from or what they are. Flak commence.

Uh-huh. I frequently see lights in the sky to the east when I am walking my dogs at night. They are very visible low in the sky.

Oh, Sky Harbor Airport is in that direction. Coincidence?

(January 11, 2014 at 12:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(January 11, 2014 at 1:45 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I am going to go ahead and state my craziest belief. I believe that people have seen objects that are genuinely unidentified flying objects and that these should be investigated via the scientific method with out preconceived notions about where they come from or what they are. Flak commence.

Uh-huh. I frequently see lights in the sky to the east when I am walking my dogs at night. They are very visible low in the sky.

Oh, Sky Harbor Airport is in that direction. Coincidence?

Airplane?

They don't look like airplanes....they just look like lights.

Must be from another galaxy.

(January 11, 2014 at 3:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They don't look like airplanes....they just look like lights.

Must be from another galaxy.

Thats what airplanes look like from a distance.

(January 11, 2014 at 12:43 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Airplane?

(January 11, 2014 at 3:07 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Thats what airplanes look like from a distance.

(January 11, 2014 at 12:03 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: its not dishonest and atheism is only directed tot he god claims, not the spiritual. you can be "atheist" towards spiritualism but i myself believe in "spirits", and i have true video footage, no prank.

So yea, i tend to believe only what has evidence, at least now that i became an atheist.

Since you only believe in what has evidence, the OP applies directly to you, and it is intellectually dishonest to say you believe spirits but not in a god, as there is no evidence for both. If you say you have video footage of so called "spirits", I think we'd all like to see it.

And to all the other people pointing out the flaw in the OP, there have already been clarifications of the error I made in the first two pages;

(January 11, 2014 at 7:38 pm)Sejanus Wrote:

(January 11, 2014 at 12:43 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Airplane?

(January 11, 2014 at 3:07 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Thats what airplanes look like from a distance.

(January 11, 2014 at 12:03 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: its not dishonest and atheism is only directed tot he god claims, not the spiritual. you can be "atheist" towards spiritualism but i myself believe in "spirits", and i have true video footage, no prank.

So yea, i tend to believe only what has evidence, at least now that i became an atheist.

Since you only believe in what has evidence, the OP applies directly to you, and it is intellectually dishonest to say you believe spirits but not in a god, as there is no evidence for both. If you say you have video footage of so called "spirits", I think we'd all like to see it.

And to all the other people pointing out the flaw in the OP, there have already been clarifications of the error I made in the first two pages;

Why you face palm me? Im just stating obvious. Mistaken identity and jumping to the it is a alien conclusion is why nobody will handle the topic the way it needs to handled. I'm not a tin foil hat type, far to skeptical for that.

I facepalmed you because you thought Min was serious.

(January 12, 2014 at 3:17 am)Sejanus Wrote: I facepalmed you because you thought Min was serious.

LOL Of course he sees lights by a airport, and yes I caught the joke hence the sardonic reply.