(January 12, 2014 at 12:11 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Criticizing a Jewish person isn't antisemitism, but criticizing a Jewish person for defending their people is.

No it fucking isn't.

The point is, some people think he committed war crimes whilst "defending his people". Arguing that position isn't antisemitic, it's anti war crimes.

It is only antisemitic if "being Jewish" is the reason you are criticizing someone.

Anti-Semitic: Ariel Sharon was a dick because he's a Jew.

Not Anti-Semitic: Ariel Sharon was a dick because he caused the deaths of a load of innocent Palestinians.

(January 12, 2014 at 4:11 am)là bạn điên Wrote: he was certainly a great man who also did questionable things. His early life in the Irgun when he advocated attacking British soldiers during WW2 is pretty appalling however his later actions were very impressive.

Criticizing someone who happens to be Jewish is fine. Singling out Israel when it is surrounded by countries with much worse records is ,however, gross evidence of antisemitism.

I do not believe he was ever in Irgun. He was in Haganah.

Quote:Criticizing a Jewish person isn't antisemitism, but criticizing a Jewish person for defending their people is.

Utter crap.

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(January 12, 2014 at 1:47 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: I do not believe he was ever in Irgun. He was in Haganah.

You are correct. I was mixing up his record with Menachim Begin

He was a murdering piece of crap and it's a crying shame he lived so long and never had to suffer for his crimes.

"85" looks like "BS." Heh.

(January 13, 2014 at 12:47 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: He was a murdering piece of crap and it's a crying shame he lived so long and never had to suffer for his crimes.

You should shew some respect, you multiculti leftist thug!

I'm completely impartial on this. I don't care either way, but I did find the opening exchange funny.

(January 13, 2014 at 12:50 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I'm completely impartial on this. I don't care either way, but I did find the opening exchange funny.

I'm not impartial; I think both Israelis and Palestinians are being dicks to each other for stupid reasons.

Oh, and this entire thread is funny, especially when EgoRapter posts.

(January 13, 2014 at 2:22 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(January 13, 2014 at 12:50 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I'm completely impartial on this. I don't care either way, but I did find the opening exchange funny.

I'm not impartial; I think both Israelis and Palestinians are being dicks to each other for stupid reasons.

Oh, and this entire thread is funny, especially when EgoRapter posts.

I don't see what is so funny about a man who helped prevent a second holocaust dying.