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January 30, 2014 at 12:49 am (This post was last modified: January 30, 2014 at 1:40 am by Drich.)
(January 29, 2014 at 7:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I have already put this arguement to bed a few times,
Careful, Drippy. Your delusions of adequacy are showing.
THE FUCKING CITY IS STILL THERE. YOUR GOD FUCKED UP.
ONLY AN ASSHOLE LIKE YOU ARGUES OTHERWISE.
Time to wake up now.
No it's not. There where 3 incarnations of the city on the mainland. Meaning there were three seperate cities name tyre. What makes a city seperate? They were not built in the same location. Even your own pic shows that incarnation 2 and incarnation 3 do not share the same foundations, as incarnation 2 is in the foreground of incarnation 3.
Ezekiel's tyre (incarnation 1) was taken down block by block and thrown into the sea to make a bridge between the mainland and the island of tyre by Alexander the Great. As per the prophesy. Nothing was left. Over time that bridge collected sand and has become a causeway. Thus sealing the prophesy of Ezekiel. This city was not rebuilt, rather another city was erected several miles away. That fact that city two was not built on the foundations of city one means these are two seperate cities. Even if they share a name. Further more city 3 was off set of city two making it a completely different city all together.
(January 29, 2014 at 10:15 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
Oh look, another thread in which Drich claims to know exactly what is in the mind of God.
All anyone need do to know the mind of God is read the bible.
(January 28, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Translated, this is what you actually are saying: "I have nothing to combat the actual true history of Yahweh so instead I'm going to attempt to make it appear that I'm simply dismissing your argument due to an implied lack of evidence."
Actually I'm saing your not worth the effort. Your whole understanding is wrong, and I see a need to have to rebuild your whole understanding from the ground up. Which means several different reference points, none of which will be good enough because you have closed your mind around your wiki page.
I have gone around and around long enough with you to know your need for commentary from a source you trust. The problem with that is you only trust sources that agree with your predetermined conclusions. Your not one who can look at raw history or data and make an unbiased opinion.
Quote:Uh yeah duh. This is what happens to ALL christians.
Ah, no. How much pride does it take to assume that your experience with God is the experience of every man woman and child on the planet Since adam?
did you ever stop to think that maybe you were holding on to something that God wanted you to let go? We have been told to humble ourselves before God, and allow Him to lift you up. If a Humble man is asked to give his God 'X' the Humble man lets it go. If not then God will never lift him up.. and he will sit in silence.
Quote: Even the most devout of christards will usually admit that god has never audibly spoken to them.
Why does God need to Speak to them audibly if they have A/S/K'ed and received the Holy Spirit?
If God lives with in you why do you need to speak with Him?
I Speak/Pray to God everyday for answers and direction. I receive it. Just like I am giving you direction concerning Spiritual matters with out once hearing my voice I too receive directions from God without hearing an audiable voice.
Quote:It most certainly matters a great deal to me right now. It is I and the good people of these forums that are laying the groundwork for putting an end to the disease of christianity.
(He said within 100 years Christianity would no longer exist.)
Quote:We are fighting the good fight against the evil that you promote.
what evil is that?
Quote:Perhaps if my ancestors had figured it out 400 years ago, I would be free of half-wits like you. It matters. If we all did nothing we might very well have another 2000 years of the lies and immorality your religion brings.
Without Christianity, 'your prople' would have way more on your plates than you know what to do with. It is Christianity that keeps the masses in check and in line with whatever soceity deems acceptiable. Take that balance out and we will be living in the world of 'The Road or the Book of Eli.'
(January 28, 2014 at 11:30 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Nobody but you considers your ridiculous apologetics to be "stomped," Drich.
The Known history of Tyre has nothing to do with appologetics.
(January 28, 2014 at 11:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Idiot. The city is still there. This stomping occurs only in your poor shit-befuddled mind.
Your god fucked up. Deal with it.
Again look in the foreground of your pic. (The second incarnation of tyre) That city was built several miles from the orginal site. Ezekiles Tyre lies at the bottom of the sea and is the foundation of the causeway that connects the Mainland from the Island of Tyre.
The city you've pictured is a modern city built several miles from the site in which Ezek's prophesy spoke about.
If pheonix was leveled, and the damage was so bad the rebuilders decided to simply move the city a few miles outside of the orginal city's limits, is the new city the same city that was destroyed?
For the intelectually dishonest the TRUE answer is NO!!!
The city you picture is not even New tyre. It is built even further away than New Tyre (which was leveled 2000 years ago) Your city is New New tyre.
Orginal example I use had to do with york and New york. Are they the same city? are they even the same country? No. Neither is Tyre (the city Ezekiel spoke of) nor New Tyre (the ruins of the city in the forground of your pic) Or New New Tyre. which is the modern city in the back ground.
So, consider your arguement stomped, squashed, flatten, failed.. Whatever you got to tell yourself to feel shame and not misrepersent history for the sake of trying to prove the bible wrong.
I wont be able to reply for a few days anyways , take your time.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Actually I'm saing your not worth the effort. Your whole understanding is wrong, and I see a need to have to rebuild your whole understanding from the ground up. Which means several different reference points, none of which will be good enough because you have closed your mind around your wiki page.
I have gone around and around long enough with you to know your need for commentary from a source you trust. The problem with that is you only trust sources that agree with your predetermined conclusions. Your not one who can look at raw history or data and make an unbiased opinion.
Ah, no. How much pride does it take to assume that your experience with God is the experience of every man woman and child on the planet Since adam?
did you ever stop to think that maybe you were holding on to something that God wanted you to let go? We have been told to humble ourselves before God, and allow Him to lift you up. If a Humble man is asked to give his God 'X' the Humble man lets it go. If not then God will never lift him up.. and he will sit in silence.
Why does God need to Speak to them audibly if they have A/S/K'ed and received the Holy Spirit?
If God lives with in you why do you need to speak with Him?
I Speak/Pray to God everyday for answers and direction. I receive it. Just like I am giving you direction concerning Spiritual matters with out once hearing my voice I too receive directions from God without hearing an audiable voice.
(He said within 100 years Christianity would no longer exist.)
what evil is that?
Without Christianity, 'your prople' would have way more on your plates than you know what to do with. It is Christianity that keeps the masses in check and in line with whatever soceity deems acceptiable. Take that balance out and we will be living in the world of 'The Road or the Book of Eli.'
The Known history of Tyre has nothing to do with appologetics.
Again look in the foreground of your pic. (The second incarnation of tyre) That city was built several miles from the orginal site. Ezekiles Tyre lies at the bottom of the sea and is the foundation of the causeway that connects the Mainland from the Island of Tyre.
The city you've pictured is a modern city built several miles from the site in which Ezek's prophesy spoke about.
If pheonix was leveled, and the damage was so bad the rebuilders decided to simply move the city a few miles outside of the orginal city's limits, is the new city the same city that was destroyed?
For the intelectually dishonest the TRUE answer is NO!!!
The city you picture is not even New tyre. It is built even further away than New Tyre (which was leveled 2000 years ago) Your city is New New tyre.
Orginal example I use had to do with york and New york. Are they the same city? are they even the same country? No. Neither is Tyre (the city Ezekiel spoke of) nor New Tyre (the ruins of the city in the forground of your pic) Or New New Tyre. which is the modern city in the back ground.
So, consider your arguement stomped, squashed, flatten, failed.. Whatever you got to tell yourself to feel shame and not misrepersent history for the sake of trying to prove the bible wrong.
I wont be able to reply for a few days anyways , take your time.
Maybe tomorrow I need to be at a computer for that.
January 30, 2014 at 1:38 am (This post was last modified: January 30, 2014 at 1:49 am by Drich.)
(January 30, 2014 at 1:05 am)rasetsu Wrote:
(January 30, 2014 at 12:49 am)Drich Wrote: All anyone need do to know the mind of God is read their bible.
I've written 5,000 posts on this forum. Tell me what's in my mind that prompts me to ask you this question?
If you even come close, I'll give you credit. Tell me what's on my mind as I write these words.
*while typing:
T-e-l-l m-e w-h-a-t-'-s o-n m-y m-i-n-d a-s I w-r-i-t-e..... Do you get it yet? What was on your mind while you were typing those words was the spelling of those words... If you say it wasn't I'll be able to call you a liar!
What's on your mind now after you just read my words??? Nothing because you mind is now blown!
So what does a rasetsu credit buy me? Do you have a counter like at chuckie cheeze where so many rasetsu points gets a Chinese finger trap and so many more gets a fine tooth comb? And if you save up 6.3 billion points you can by a portable b&w tv/am fm radio with cassette player? I'll pass, you can forward them to mini. He is going to need some cheering up because I think he finally realizes his tyre argument has failed... But I guess in three months he will argue it again as if we never had our talk, and then wonder where he got his futuristic portable b&w tv am/fm cassette player.
(January 30, 2014 at 1:05 am)rasetsu Wrote:
(January 30, 2014 at 12:49 am)Drich Wrote: All anyone need do to know the mind of God is read their bible.
I've written 5,000 posts on this forum. Tell me what's in my mind that prompts me to ask you this question?
If you even come close, I'll give you credit. Tell me what's on my mind as I write these words.
What's on your mind is a logical trap. I honestly don't know what triggered this 'trap' but I can see the hallmarks. In short by asking me to point out a passage you have me admitting to speak for God in some place where appearently you believe that I do not have the authority or am not supposed to have a knowledge I have professed.
By not being able to identify a given passage or instance you have proven a point I am suspecting your going to try to make, In That if I can't guess what your thinking how can I guess what God is thinking. Or something along those lines.
To which I will ask you for the quote, you'll give it to me (well maybe not now) then I'll explain it in a logical way and you will call me a a bad word or name and we will repeat this process in my next thread.
January 30, 2014 at 1:53 am (This post was last modified: January 30, 2014 at 1:59 am by Angrboda.)
Not even close. Which is how far you are from knowing the mind of God.
(In case your pathetic wurm of a brain needs an explanation, I was a touch typist, I don't have to think about individual letters or words while typing, I just think the thought, and the hand types it.)
So, wrong as usual. And just like you're wrong about what's on my mind while asking a question, you are also wrong about God.
You lose. Again.
(And for what it's worth, I was thinking about reading an essay by Jacques Derrida 30 years earlier in class, and how that related to your general cluelessness about the deep questions involved in interpreting texts.)
Loser. Go tell your wife, Trippy, that you failed again.
January 30, 2014 at 1:59 am (This post was last modified: January 30, 2014 at 2:10 am by Drich.)
(January 30, 2014 at 1:53 am)rasetsu Wrote:
Not even close. Which is how far you are from knowing the mind of God.
(In case your pathetic wurm of a brain needs an explanation, I was a touch typist, I don't have to think about individual letters or words while typing, I just think the thought, and the hand types it.)
So, wrong as usual. And just like you're wrong about what's on my mind while asking a question, you are also wrong about God.
You lose. Again.
(And for what it's worth, I was thinking about reading an essay by Jacques Derrida 30 years earlier in class, and how that related to your general cluelessness about the deep questions involved in interpreting texts.)
Loser. Go tell your wife, Trippy, that you failed again.
you read the set up, but you didn't read the delivery!
Fight your enemy where she isn't Rase!!!
It's like your on a loop or follow a rail like a train...
Is not hard to see where your going... I guess this means I got ya huh? I mean one has to, kinda got to know what or at least how another thinks to lay a trap like that one. then to time it just right, to get you to commit to a scripted course of action that I had to call in advance! I could have almost written your response for you!
I know I know you think I got lucky, again.. But What is that like 6 or 7 times now?