I'm only 15 minutes into the debate and already I think Ken Ham's use of other people (via videos) is poor form. There is absolutely no need to do it. If Ham wanted to name scientists who are creationists, he could have just done so (like the way he originally named the guy who invented the MRI).

I mean, if this was an agreed format by both people, then fair enough, but in my opinion when you go to see a debate between two people, you expect only those two people to be doing the talking.

Asking questions is good, but some of these are really simple answers that any adult should know. Why would you even ask why the sun sets? Shouldn't you have learned that in grade school?

Science is not a theory. It's a method. Plus the reason theory is the highest form of knowledge is because our knowledge changes over time. If you say something is an indisputable fact, like lighting coming from the hand of Zeus, you'd eventually be proven wrong. if you say something is where all the evidence points, then it's going to be that way until you find other evidence and test it against the rest. It's like arguing about which god from which holy book created the universe. First you have to prove gods exist.

I can look at the world, and what I see is only evidence for what I see. Trees are evidence of trees. Not gods.

We didn't come from modern monkeys or apes. Modern animals evolved from animals in the past. Some at different rates. This includes gorillas, humans, and spider monkeys.

(February 5, 2014 at 4:41 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Asking questions is good, but some of these are really simple answers that any adult should know. Why would you even ask why the sun sets? Shouldn't you have learned that in grade school?

The simple will always trump the complex, for some people. But for others, the question is the first step on the real road to true knowledge.

I was watching it on a library computer. If he would've called Nye's arguments "religion" ONE more time I would've punched a hole through the screen!

(February 5, 2014 at 6:48 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Oh, man... I feel like some brain cells have died while answering this... I fully understand why thunderf00t started his "why do people laugh at creationists" series... Oh, boy... so much lack of education!

I feel the same way. That's why I emphasized I have only the most basic high school education in biology and other sciences. Even in America, this information is readily available. Where were these people?

Quote: Where were these people?

Reading the fucking bible.