In all honestly, if I were the one being tortured, I would want my loved one to do it. I would I mean more to them than a fucking prudish 14yo. I would not ask of them something I wouldn't do myself. I would do anything to save someone I truly love, no matter who I hurt.

(February 18, 2014 at 1:13 am)bennyboy Wrote:

(February 17, 2014 at 10:06 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: I didn't come up with it.

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Also rape fantasies don't make you a psychopath.

Yeah, there's another problem. I'm guessing about 25% of men would see this situation as a justification for GETTING to rape a 14 year-old girl. And I'm giving 74% of men a benefit of the doubt that they probably don't deserve.

Yup that's exactly it. Definitely. No doubt. When I first read the OP in my mind I'm thinking, "What's the dilemma? Have something happen to a loved one that I won't like, or enjoy raping a 14 year old girl." Spot on. Good job.

(February 17, 2014 at 11:00 pm)Rahul Wrote: This is easy. I'd use my super strength to break out of the chamber, give the foul villian a thorough thrashing, and hand him over to the proper authorities. Then we'd all go for ice cream.

Oh no! Shit just got real, dawg!

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(February 18, 2014 at 7:09 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: In all honestly, if I were the one being tortured, I would want my loved one to do it. I would I mean more to them than a fucking prudish 14yo. I would not ask of them something I wouldn't do myself. I would do anything to save someone I truly love, no matter who I hurt.

We're all martyrs.

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(February 18, 2014 at 7:12 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: Yup that's exactly it. Definitely. No doubt. When I first read the OP in my mind I'm thinking, "What's the dilemma? Have something happen to a loved one that I won't like, or enjoy raping a 14 year old girl." Spot on. Good job.

She comes preprepared and everything.

Like a TV dinner

(February 17, 2014 at 11:37 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: That is not an option.

Many people think certain things aren't options, until you make it one!

(February 18, 2014 at 12:28 am)rasetsu Wrote: I'd probably violate the young man. But then, I'm amoral and horny.

And hungry, I imagine.

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(February 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm)Rahul Wrote:

(February 17, 2014 at 11:37 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: That is not an option.

Many people think certain things aren't options, until you make it one!

Does being able to walk through walls count as a superpower?

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(February 18, 2014 at 1:13 am)bennyboy Wrote: Yeah, there's another problem. I'm guessing about 25% of men would see this situation as a justification for GETTING to rape a 14 year-old girl. And I'm giving 74% of men a benefit of the doubt that they probably don't deserve.

Now that's just sexist

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(February 18, 2014 at 4:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I wouldn't rape the girl but the torture would torture me to the point my animal self took over. Then I'd rape the girl.

Poor hobbit

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(February 18, 2014 at 10:33 am)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(February 18, 2014 at 4:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I wouldn't rape the girl but the torture would torture me to the point my animal self took over. Then I'd rape the girl.

He is not torturing you he is torturing the person you love most.

You don't understand how much that hurts, and you're asking about a dilemma that is BASED on this premise? >__<

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(February 18, 2014 at 12:43 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Kobayashi maru....

I marry the girl!

Inspiring. I'd perform the ceremony myself.

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(February 18, 2014 at 6:40 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I see what you're saying, but consider that in order to save that someone, you must directly harm another (the girl), and indirectly harm the child born of rape by putting him in the hands of a psychopath.

A potential being... we're talking about very real and demonstrable suffering. Some children are born slaves, tools, and toys, and you CANNOT stop this (save by killing the girl).

If you cannot rape her, and impregnate her: kill her. You have been given full capability to do such.

Kindest option yet: stop her suffering.

Quote:As this was posed as a moral dilemma, I answered in terms of what would be the most moral choice. Under my personal moral code, causing harm to children is one of the worst possible things one can do.

I can certainly understand your position... but there are many levels on which my differing values show.

(February 18, 2014 at 6:59 pm)bennyboy Wrote: You don't yet understand that being a man sometimes means doing wrong in order to protect those under your care from being wronged.

That may be true in a more general sense (ie, the man who steals a loaf of bread to feed his family, or assaults an intruder to his home before determining intent). I see the dilemma in this topic as more of a test of our reaction or approach. There is almost no context, just a situation, and there are two primary questions, as I see it:

- do you react to the question right away, or do you take time to think it through?

- do you react emotionally (projecting forward and imagining the consequences of each action) or logically (treating it as a math problem)?

These are linked, in that I think the less time you take to consider the question, the more likely you are to make the emotional choice.

I wonder what this demented person putting all this on would do when he found out that I shoot blanks.

How did I get into the room with the person the psycho wants me to rape?
Does the psycho have any weapons? How much does he weigh roughly?
Does the psycho have a camera in the room with us?

(February 19, 2014 at 3:58 pm)Shep Wrote: How did I get into the room with the person the psycho wants me to rape?

Chloroform, then a strong buck of a black guy carried you over his shoulder.

Quote:Does the psycho have any weapons? How much does he weigh roughly?

Nuclear arsenal, private army, and he IS the illuminati.

He weighs ~8,340,107,534 American dollars.

Quote:Does the psycho have a camera in the room with us?

Yes, and enough lighting to make J. J. Abrams proud.

I'm disgusted at the way some of you are talking about rape as if it's no big deal. I wish I hadn't checked in on this thread.