(January 26, 2014 at 8:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ luckie, I haven't answered your question because it took me many years of study, prayer and coming to an understanding of God to come to my belief of hell, I've stated many times it's not what most believe but for me it's the one that makes sense. I believe that the way I see hell makes it far worse than a hell of fire, physical pain can be far less painful than the mental anguish people bring upon their lives and to have eternity to do so, well I can't think of a worse way to live. Also one doing the punishing, not God, God is giving people a place to do that, all together. Man can not understand what it's like to be without any love, especially God's love. Even though many do not believe in Him that doesn't mean they do not receive His love, I believe that's why hell is described as a place of fire and brimstone, man's limited mind can not understand anything worse. As Forrest Gump said, "that's all I have to say about that."

GC

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@Luckie, I said I believe in hell and the Bible tells us of hell and you do not know whether the Bible is using fire and brimstone for the absence
of God's love, so we might have an idea of the terrible thing people will put themselves through.

GC

Any god that would put me in a place absent of love (especially the love I have acquired for others) just because I refuse to take their existence on faith when the opposite is being re-enforced in the environment that that god put me in: Is inherently too unsound of a Creator being for me to subscribe belief in.

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Any god that would put me in a place absent of love (especially the love I have acquired for others) just because I refuse to take their existence on faith when the opposite is being re-enforced in the environment that that god put me in: Is inherently too unsound of a Creator being for me to subscribe belief in.

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apparently my phone felt that needed saying twice in a row. Who am I to correct the all knowing phone?

Your phone has condemned you not once, but twice dear fellow.

Throw it away. Thoust get it behind, for your phone is of the devil.

I just read your whole post in Mama's voice from the movie Waterboy

(February 22, 2014 at 7:16 am)Luckie Wrote:

I just read your whole post in Mama's voice from the movie Waterboy

Luddite Christianity.

Ironically, it would condemn the Apple.

But... but... I loves me some apples! :angry:

No one wants to talk about it, even 45 pages in huh? Next time don't whine at the beginning of the thread and save me the trouble.

(February 22, 2014 at 7:03 am)Luckie Wrote: Any god that would put me in a place absent of love (especially the love I have acquired for others) just because I refuse to take their existence on faith when the opposite is being re-enforced in the environment that that god put me in: Is inherently too unsound of a Creator being for me to subscribe belief in.

This is what I find the most baffling about christianity, both as a proposition about reality and as a supposed moral system, because there's nothing evil about a genuine failure to locate a specific piece of knowledge, and that's really all atheism is, should christianity pan out to be correct. You won't find a single atheist here who would say that no, they wouldn't believe god exists even if they had evidence for him. And yet that failure to find a single piece of information is sufficient justification for an everlasting punishment, in god's eyes?

At times it almost seems like this is a religion that takes place in a cartoon world, where anyone who doesn't believe in god is some mustache twirling supervillain, but a cursory glance around the world shows that this simply isn't true; what you have are a group of people no different from anyone else except for this one belief, being segregated and punished forever by a god who apparently thinks this is okay.

What pettiness this is! Could you even imagine a teacher or a parent punishing a child for asking a question, or having an incorrect answer without having any prior experience? Yet again, this is a topic upon which god is judged to a far more lax standard than a normal human would be.

If there were a god, that made everything, he'd be much bigger than that.

And that's why Christianity fails in my books.


Fin.