(March 2, 2014 at 9:51 pm)Spage Wrote: If you'll notice, I never demanded repsect. I said I hoped I would receive it, but wasn't sure I'd get it. Never did I demand respect. Also, what have I said that suggests I don't remotely understand evolution? Also, I have no reason why you should give me respect; if you don't want to, don't. Although, I don't need to tell you that do I?

No, but you said yourself you came here expecting it. As though you were entitled to it.

Your obvious misunderstandings about evolution have already been pointed out by other posters. Read the damn thread.

Heh. Our arguments cancel out because of your ignorance about the facts of evolution?

*wipes hand over face*

On any other subject a person is embarassed by any ignorance they have. With religion it makes people positively proud of their ignorance.

I'm not going to have this conversation. Because you don't have any interest in learning jack shit. The scientific theory of evolution is the most robust scientific theory humans have ever produced. Everything from the food on your table, to flu shots, to HIV treatments absolutely depend on it being correct. We have more proof for it than for the heliocentric solar system.

If you want to gloat about your ignorance go do it to someone else. I really don't feel like wasting my time.

Here's your fucking whales. Like it matters. Http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/librar...34_05.html

(March 2, 2014 at 9:52 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: To come someplace new and automatically demand respect is sort of silly. I am new here, and even though I'm an atheist, I still would expect to put in some time, properly and coherently argue some points, and then maybe some people will come to expect certain things from me. Respect is earned, not given, as the saying goes.

I'm starting to get irritated by people that are under the impression I demanded respect. No where did I do anything more than request it.

(March 2, 2014 at 9:52 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Also, your post was extremely defensive and dismissive. Why be surprised when you get what you expected? There are many people on here with all sorts of beliefs. Those that come here with the intent to proselytize don't get treated well, those that come here and post statements with no intent on discourse don't get treated well, but those that come here with questions they are honestly willing to have an intelligent conversation about actually get treated pretty well.

Thank you, although I won't be sticking around here.

(March 2, 2014 at 9:52 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: But remember where you are. This is a forum for atheists. You came here, posted this diatribe, and asked us not to try to change your mind. That is patently ridiculous.

This is the truth. Except I think "diatribe" is a little bit too extreme of a word.

One does tire of educating the deliberately ignorant

(March 2, 2014 at 9:54 pm)Rahul Wrote: Heh. Our arguments cancel out because of your ignorance about the facts of evolution?

*wipes hand over face*

On any other subject a person is embarassed by any ignorance they have. With religion it makes people positively proud of their ignorance.

I'm not going to have this conversation. Because you don't have any interest in learning jack shit. The scientific theory of evolution is the most robust scientific theory humans have ever produced. Everything from the food on your table, to flu shots, to HIV treatments absolutely depend on it being correct. We have more proof for it than for the heliocentric solar system.

If you want to gloat about your ignorance go do it to someone else. I really don't feel like wasting my time.

Here's your fucking whales. Like it matters. Http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/librar...34_05.html

Not going to attempt an argument with you. Although, I'm still waiting for some actual fossils of those whales.

Strange, I'm always blasted for not believing evolution, for not seeing all the obvious facts, and yet when I bring up transitional fossils, no one can ever show more than a few.

(March 2, 2014 at 9:57 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: One does tire of educating the deliberately ignorant

Weren't you the person who just welcomed me?

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(March 2, 2014 at 9:54 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:

(March 2, 2014 at 9:51 pm)Spage Wrote: If you'll notice, I never demanded repsect. I said I hoped I would receive it, but wasn't sure I'd get it. Never did I demand respect. Also, what have I said that suggests I don't remotely understand evolution? Also, I have no reason why you should give me respect; if you don't want to, don't. Although, I don't need to tell you that do I?

No, but you said yourself you came here expecting it. As though you were entitled to it.

Your obvious misunderstandings about evolution have already been pointed out by other posters. Read the damn thread.

No one can ever provide evidence against what I contradict. Edit.

Quote:Weren't you the person who just welcomed me?

You wore out your welcome very quickly, didn't you?

(March 2, 2014 at 9:56 pm)Spage Wrote: I'm starting to get irritated by people that are under the impression I demanded respect. No where did I do anything more than request it.

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Thank you, although I won't be sticking around here.

It is ridiculous to request respect whilst being disrespectful.

Why not? Your views on evolution and the origin of the cosmos/life are interesting topics that you seriously could learn something about. Some of the things you said are demonstrably false, and if you stuck around, the worst you could leave here with is learning some things, and maybe you can bring some apologetics we haven't been exposed to before. We're a tough crowd, but if you show some earnest desire to discourse, this could be a positive experience...

(March 2, 2014 at 10:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Weren't you the person who just welcomed me?

You wore out your welcome very quickly, didn't you?

So it would seem.

(March 2, 2014 at 9:28 pm)Spage Wrote: I would like to see pictures of these fossils.

Also, there a several million different kinds of creatures on this planet. The lack of transitional fossils showing the evolution of these creatures is, in my opinion, a small bit of evidence against evolution. You don't think so. I do. Our arguments cancel out.

The lack of transitional fossils between this picture:



and this one:


is, in my opinion, a small bit of evidence against procreation. You probably don't think so (notice I don't presume to tell you what you think; merely suppose it). I do. Do our arguments cancel out?

Well... no. One of us could just be wrong.

Incidentally, it's not enough to disprove evoultion, even if you think you can - you still have to produce evidence in support of whatever alternative you wish to place in its stead. Bear in mind also that whatever alternative you may be proposing has to be at least as comprehensive as the existing model.

(March 2, 2014 at 9:51 pm)Spage Wrote: If you'll notice, I never demanded repsect. I said I hoped I would receive it, but wasn't sure I'd get it. Never did I demand respect.

No, you said you expected to receive it. That, unless you qualify your meaning, suggests a demand.

(March 2, 2014 at 9:37 pm)Spage Wrote:

(March 2, 2014 at 9:34 pm)professor Wrote: Hi Spage, I read your entire thing and wonder what the atheists could possibly say?
And I am not one of them. Kind of looks like a mission statement to me.

Your'e probably right. I assumed that, presented with civility, they could be civil in return.
I'm new around here.

I suppose if there actually IS anything to truly say regarding my post, odds are the person who would think to say it isn't going to read it. Oh well.

What is there to say?

You've basically said"nothing will change my mind"

What is there to discuss?