I'm pretty sure Paul or Peter said that it would be good if you didn't have sex, or why would anyone want to take a vow of chastity? If you must, do it within marriage. It's also stated that it's better to shoot your sperm in a woman than let it be wasted otherwise.

It's a common belief among christians that masturbation is bad, and there's got to be some reason catholic priests take vows of chastity. You can't just say that the bible doesn't say anything against either.

As far as letting something consume you, I'll agree that it's possible to take pretty much anything too far. Eating and sleeping can be taken to unhealthy levels. It's just that some people belief that any masturbation or sex outside of marriage is wrong, when both can be good for you or your relationship.

(March 2, 2014 at 4:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Now, of course, by the time they are 7 they are all fucked out by pervert priests.

I hold this quote up to you as proof that out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.

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(March 3, 2014 at 10:18 am)Chad32 Wrote: It's also stated that it's better to shoot your sperm in a woman than let it be wasted otherwise.

This is stated where? Its not in the Bible. So why are you mentioning it?

Each time I see this thread's title come up....
I remember this.

I guess that's all I've got. I'm just not sure how they'd get that part so wrong that they'd site the bible as a defense for abstinence only education, and demand that we not even masturbate and things like that.

(March 3, 2014 at 11:24 am)Chad32 Wrote: I guess that's all I've got.

Then you have misquoted the Bible.

(March 3, 2014 at 11:18 am)discipulus Wrote: You won't because you know that when the actions of deists are put on one side of the scale and the actions of those who imitated Christ's selfless self sacrificing life of love are placed on the other, the result lends credibility to my claims and demonstrates the utter bankruptcy of yours.

And I see you've entirely ignored the part where I pointed out how you changed the nature of the debate and specifically formulated your question to be as one sided as possible, without actually delivering a proper conclusion as to morality, but then, I guess you're just trying to hide that dishonest little flourish. It's not surprising.

(March 3, 2014 at 11:24 am)discipulus Wrote:

(March 3, 2014 at 11:24 am)Chad32 Wrote: I guess that's all I've got.

Then you have misquoted the Bible.

Apparently. Some things have been so repeated in the religious circles I'm in that you'd think there were definite bible passages for it. It's a big part of christian culture nonetheless, though.