(March 12, 2014 at 1:42 pm)ronedee Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 1:07 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: I've said it before and I'll keep saying it; 'sacrificing' an immortal being is like cutting one's hair, that shit grows back.

I'm surprised none of our resident Christians have swooped in and made the "godly might makes right" argument.

Also; blow it out your ass Ronedee.

..funny thing is, someone here is always ready to sniff it!

I thought priests were only interested in little boys.

(March 12, 2014 at 1:59 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 1:42 pm)ronedee Wrote: ..funny thing is, someone here is always ready to sniff it!

I thought priests were only interested in little boys.

Just shows how dumb you really are...huh?

Theres a big world outside of your parents basement! Join the Living!

(March 12, 2014 at 10:30 am)ronedee Wrote: When asked about the afterlife, Jesus told His disciples: "Whoever comes to the light, will come to me."

But, there will be people that won't "go to the light". Why? Probably many reasons. The main being guilt, and not
wanting to be judged!

But, Jesus also said: "I won't judge you. You will judge yourselves."

I love Jesus!

Jesus also supposedly said that people who love their families more than they love him can't be one of his followers.

(March 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm)ronedee Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 1:59 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: I thought priests were only interested in little boys.

Just shows how dumb you really are...huh?

Says the man who believes in cosmic Jewish zombies.

(March 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm)ronedee Wrote: Theres a big world outside of your parents basement! Join the Living!

(March 12, 2014 at 11:46 am)Cinjin Wrote: Jacob,

I noticed that you posted this and disappeared. What are your thoughts on your god's hell?
Do you think all the non-believers here are going to hell?
Do you, like GC, make the claim that the 'unsaved' simply "escort" themselves into hell?

That's me. Shit and run, that's my motto

I was just interested in other people's views. But since you were courteous enough to ask me mine...

I don't believe in hell in the traditional sense. It's a stretch to get to it from the bible (about which I have doubts anyway).

Even in my most insufferably rabid post conversion evangelistic phase I never liked the turn or burn school of evangelism.

(March 12, 2014 at 2:09 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 10:30 am)ronedee Wrote: When asked about the afterlife, Jesus told His disciples: "Whoever comes to the light, will come to me."

But, there will be people that won't "go to the light". Why? Probably many reasons. The main being guilt, and not
wanting to be judged!

But, Jesus also said: "I won't judge you. You will judge yourselves."

I love Jesus!

Jesus also supposedly said that people who love their families more than they love him can't be one of his followers.

What's wrong with Loving God more? Do you love your sisters and brothers more than your father or mother?

Jesus is always taken out of context? He spoke in parables for most of His ministry. Until He announced that He would speak "directly" to His apostles. Which they were amazed, and open to at that point.

People then, and even now couldn't understand the concepts He brought. They needed to be shown, and proved to! That's why He died and came back to life! To show that He was the Way to Eternal Life!

Matt 10:37 "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38"And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39"He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it."

(March 12, 2014 at 4:26 pm)ronedee Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 2:09 pm)Beccs Wrote: Jesus also supposedly said that people who love their families more than they love him can't be one of his followers.

What's wrong with Loving God more? Do you love your sisters and brothers more than your father or mother?

Jesus is always taken out of context? He spoke in parables for most of His ministry. Until He announced that He would speak "directly" to His apostles. Which they were amazed, and open to at that point.

People then, and even now couldn't understand the concepts He brought. They needed to be shown, and proved to! That's why He died and came back to life! To show that He was the Way to Eternal Life!

Matt 10:37 "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38"And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39"He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it."

I love my family on an equal basis.

Why should I love someone who only apparently appears periodically, to selected people, more than the people in my life every day.

It's always amazing to me when people claim that people of the opposing view take their person that they continuously quote out of context, but the defenders of that person never do . . .

Oh, and throwing bible quotes at us as though they have any relevance is like me quoting Lord of the Rings at you as though that has any life meaning to you.

(March 12, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 4:26 pm)ronedee Wrote: What's wrong with Loving God more? Do you love your sisters and brothers more than your father or mother?

Jesus is always taken out of context? He spoke in parables for most of His ministry. Until He announced that He would speak "directly" to His apostles. Which they were amazed, and open to at that point.

People then, and even now couldn't understand the concepts He brought. They needed to be shown, and proved to! That's why He died and came back to life! To show that He was the Way to Eternal Life!

Matt 10:37 "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38"And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39"He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it."

I love my family on an equal basis.

Why should I love someone who only apparently appears periodically, to selected people, more than the people in my life every day.

It's always amazing to me when people claim that people of the opposing view take their person that they continuously quote out of context, but the defenders of that person never do . . .

Maybe because....THEY ARE GOD!

(March 12, 2014 at 4:41 pm)ronedee Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Beccs Wrote: I love my family on an equal basis.

Why should I love someone who only apparently appears periodically, to selected people, more than the people in my life every day.

It's always amazing to me when people claim that people of the opposing view take their person that they continuously quote out of context, but the defenders of that person never do . . .

Maybe because....THEY ARE GOD!

Right.

I should love a being for which there is NO evidence apart from a book and the claims of believers more than I love my family?

Then I should also love Allah (same god, different version), Odin, Osiris, etc.

Nah, I'll give actual living people my love.

Someone who has no use for people who doesn't put him at the center of everything is not a good person. He's a selfish and self centered person who has little to no place as part of a group. Especially if that person treats everyone the same, whether they worship him or not.