Suppose, as a thought exercise, that a woman could "envision" every child that she had an opportunity to have. Thus, at the age of 10 or 12 she would start woefully morning the infants that she failed to have because she didn't "feed" her eggs with the required "fertilizer". Now to lessen her sorrow, she could decide on how many children she wants to have, and when. Now supposing that she decides that she wants five children, spaced 3 years apart, that still leaves a whole host of children that she refuses to give the requirements of life to.

Why does it matter that she excludes choosing a possible child at whatever stage of development?

Does a woman morn a non-fertilized egg, a fertilized egg, a blastomere, or a fetus that she chose not to nurture any differently? Why?

In college, ( a long time ago and I'm reciting this from a very poor memory) I watched a video of the experiments with the enzyme chains guarding the zona pelucida of the egg. This was a study of why can't a human egg be fertilized with porcine, canine, or bovine sperm. All of this was viewed under a microscope. After exposure to several other kinds of sperm, the matching sperm was introduced and the egg was successfully fertilized. Then the glass slides were washed down the sink, killing the fertilized egg. Did the TA commit murder? Was that considered an abortion? Will you lie awake at night bemoaning the loss of that child that never had a chance?*

I think the observed guilt that some women feel after an abortion is a effect caused by the religious guilt machines and the age old misogyny of patriarchal societies that don't want women to be in control of their own reproductive organs or lives in any way.



*I'm not completely sure that the fertilized egg that was finally fertilized was the human egg, but we did have human eggs and human sperm as part of the study so it very well could have been. No one seemed to have any problem with it at all.

(March 17, 2014 at 11:54 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: I've had four friends who've had abortions. It's been over a decade for each of them since they've had abortions, and I'm only in touch on a regular basis with two of these friends, and they have not 'recovered.' They still mourn the loss. It was a loss, even though it was a choice. I don't want to get into an abortion debate, but it's a tremendously difficult decision, each of my friends wrestled with it. We will be out somewhere, for dinner, whatever... and they will see children that might be the child's age of the baby they aborted, and this triggers a lot of pain and emotion for them. So, I've seen that up close, and it's just such a hard decision for anyone to make. My advice is to not judge anyone who's been through this, because it was FAR from an easy choice. Many people think women just hop on down to the doc to have a 'procedure' done,' and that's that. Back to life as usual. No, it's far from that.

I've never had one, personally.

Thanks! That was very well said. That is usually what I have seen from women who have abortions. It is never a choice they want to make. From what I've seen it is usually a choice motivated by fear, desperation, and pressure from others.

Nobody wants an abortion. Unless their fucked up in the head like me.

How many of u want to have an abortion?

(March 21, 2014 at 10:26 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: How many of u want to have an abortion?

I do! I do! And I want pictures of it to send to pro-life cunts!

(March 17, 2014 at 9:37 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Well, I'm extremely fucked up in the head and been hospitalized and locked up more times than I can count. Now institutions are home to me so being free is not my comfort zone and I can't relate to people.

I've also done damage with drugs and alcohol. LIfe could be good but I'm in a rut due to my stupidity!

Hey don't loose hope in yourself. I totally fucked up my life with heroin and lsd. I brought out my schizophrenia really bad from drug use and ended up institutionalised for seven years right after my freshman year at university. Now I'm in a pre-med programme, clean from drugs (except pot and lean lol...gotta relax sometimes ), and building a family with my partners. You'd be surprised the depths you can pull yourself up from. Hang in there.

As far as abortions go no I've never had one personally, but I wouldn't have an issue having one currently as a child would completely destroy my hopes of graduating. My sister, however, did have one when she was about 16. She says she doesn't regret it because if she had kept the child not only would she have ruined her life, but the child's as well. I have friends who have had abortions, and I must say the reactions are mixed (they are also of various religions/non-religious etc). Some regret the decision for religious reasons or because they wish they had kept the child from a motherly sense; others though have no issue with it. I think it's a very personal issue. Like everything else there's no answer that all women will agree upon.

(March 21, 2014 at 4:49 pm)OGirly Wrote:

(March 17, 2014 at 9:37 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Well, I'm extremely fucked up in the head and been hospitalized and locked up more times than I can count. Now institutions are home to me so being free is not my comfort zone and I can't relate to people.

I've also done damage with drugs and alcohol. LIfe could be good but I'm in a rut due to my stupidity!

Hey don't loose hope in yourself. I totally fucked up my life with heroin and lsd. I brought out my schizophrenia really bad from drug use and ended up institutionalised for seven years right after my freshman year at university. Now I'm in a pre-med programme, clean from drugs (except pot and lean lol...gotta relax sometimes ), and building a family with my partners. You'd be surprised the depths you can pull yourself up from. Hang in there.

As far as abortions go no I've never had one personally, but I wouldn't have an issue having one currently as a child would completely destroy my hopes of graduating. My sister, however, did have one when she was about 16. She says she doesn't regret it because if she had kept the child not only would she have ruined her life, but the child's as well. I have friends who have had abortions, and I must say the reactions are mixed (they are also of various religions/non-religious etc). Some regret the decision for religious reasons or because they wish they had kept the child from a motherly sense; others though have no issue with it. I think it's a very personal issue. Like everything else there's no answer that all women will agree upon.

Way 2 go sweety

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(March 21, 2014 at 1:28 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote:

(March 21, 2014 at 10:26 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: How many of u want to have an abortion?

I do! I do! And I want pictures of it to send to pro-life cunts!

Promise to send one to this cunt within the first 24 hours
Hopefully u aren't aborting the savior who will convert the world to atheism