(March 23, 2014 at 5:24 pm)tor Wrote: Damn so we have 3 atheists already who don't have a response to this argument. I already told this person that he is owning the atheist forum so far.

I'd like to point out that even if no one on the planet EARTH knows how to respond to this argument, it still does not automatically mean that it is inherently correct or true or indicates "winning" at anything whatsoever.

(March 23, 2014 at 5:28 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:

(March 23, 2014 at 5:24 pm)tor Wrote: Damn so we have 3 atheists already who don't have a response to this argument. I already told this person that he is owning the atheist forum so far.

I'd like to point out that even if no one on the planet EARTH knows how to respond to this argument, it still does not automatically mean that it is inherently correct or true or indicates "winning" at anything whatsoever.

What does determine correctness of the argument then? Because if it really is impossible to create good without evil then theists solved problem of evil.

(March 23, 2014 at 5:31 pm)tor Wrote:

(March 23, 2014 at 5:28 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: I'd like to point out that even if no one on the planet EARTH knows how to respond to this argument, it still does not automatically mean that it is inherently correct or true or indicates "winning" at anything whatsoever.

What does determine correctness of the argument then? Because if it really is impossible to create good without evil then theists solved problem of evil.

i think this argument is subjective because there is no absolute as to we know so far about our emotions. Keep in mind that not everything has an absolute answer or truth, as much as you may want one, you either have to delude yourself (to a certain extent) or just decide what is right for you (and i speak in absence of gods or special deities).

So the problem of evil is solved?

(March 23, 2014 at 5:39 pm)tor Wrote: So the problem of evil is solved?

evil? explain your question, its irrelevant to the topic...

Oh for fucks sake. xr34p3rx does evil exist?

(March 23, 2014 at 5:39 pm)tor Wrote: So the problem of evil is solved?

I guess that depends on if you think that particular argument is convincing and credible.

Personally, I do not, so the problem of evil has not been solved to my satisfaction.

So the argument doesn't convince you but you can't find a response to it either?

(March 23, 2014 at 5:41 pm)tor Wrote: Oh for fucks sake. xr34p3rx does evil exist?

well shit, be more detailed and explain your question more.
evil in my opinion is also subjective because in the middle east with the Muslims, they believe it is good and just to behead traitors of that religion, as to the "sane" person, we think its evil. so yes at a subjectively point of view

(March 23, 2014 at 5:44 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote:

(March 23, 2014 at 5:41 pm)tor Wrote: Oh for fucks sake. xr34p3rx does evil exist?

well shit, be more detailed and explain your question more.
evil in my opinion is also subjective because in the middle east with the Muslims, they believe it is good and just to behead traitors of that religion, as to the "sane" person, we think its evil.

That's great now I ask you again. Does evil exist?