Hmm so apparently it was perfectly possible for god to create world without evil.
And people would be happy there.
Ok good we owned that guy.

(March 23, 2014 at 6:34 pm)tor Wrote: Hmm so apparently it was perfectly possible for god to create world without evil.
And people would be happy there.
Ok good we owned that guy.

Do you feel better now?

The degree to which you seem to care about this amuses me so greatly. I think I can remember when I used to enter debates and care as much about "winning" them as much as you seem to.

Actually the dude checked this topic and said we all failed. Are you sure you have good responses?
Could you link to the posts which you think have best responses?

(March 23, 2014 at 6:45 pm)tor Wrote: Actually the dude checked this topic and said we all failed. Are you sure you have good responses?

Then he is just wrong on the internet. It happens a lot, you know.

Ok he brought this point.
He said that for love to exist evil also has to exist because otherwise we wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
What do you think about this?

(March 23, 2014 at 6:53 pm)tor Wrote: Ok he brought this point.
He said that for love to exist evil also has to exist because otherwise we wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
What do you think about this?

I don't see how it is relevantly different from saying that for good to exist, evil must exist, which is what this whole thread is about.

So love could exist. Evil is not necessary. And telling difference between the 2 is not important. Do we agree on this?

(March 23, 2014 at 6:55 pm)tor Wrote: So love could exist. Evil is not necessary. And telling difference between the 2 is not important. Do we agree on this?

Unless someone explains why there is a relevant difference, yes.

Looks like I am owning him now.
He just admitted that god could design world where Junko Furuta is safe and that is eternal bliss.
Which raises "Problem of heaven" which is why didn't god put her in the eternal bliss in the first place but first put her in the world where she was tortured for 44 days and killed to THEN put her into eternal bliss. This is some fucked up system.

God could just put everyone in the eternal bliss from the beginning and nobody would get hurt.

Could love exist without hate?

Don't know. Don't give a rats ass!