(March 24, 2014 at 8:36 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Why state in an atheist forum that you are observing anti-religious undertones then? What did you fucking expect us to say, especially when you not only missed the nail but dropped the hammer on your toe? You're not upset? Then your words are worthless garbage.

I expected you guys to take Minimalist's view. He's not satisfied with undertones. He wants Tyson to come right out and say it.

I pointed it out because I saw the undertones and recognize there is something else on the agenda. The poster who claimed the show was about making people excited by science is wrong because it is obvious there is a second motive.

Listen to me. If you go thru life and don't recognize when you are being fed an agenda....you're doing it wrong. This is true even if you agree with what you are being fed. Its okay to acknowledge there are anti-religious undertones in the series. Its not okay to not see those undertones or pretend they don't exist.

Quote:If CS Lewis can use his book to push an agenda, why can't Tyson?

Because creatard asswipes are screaming for equal time on a science show to spout their pious bullshit. I don't give a flying fuck about your god.

Fucking morons like Ken Ham and Ray Comfort are acting like someone is shoving a cactus dildo up their assholes. I wish they were.

(March 24, 2014 at 8:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:If CS Lewis can use his book to push an agenda, why can't Tyson?

Because creatard asswipes are screaming for equal time on a science show to spout their pious bullshit. I don't give a flying fuck about your god.

Fucking morons like Ken Ham and Ray Comfort are acting like someone is shoving a cactus dildo up their assholes. I wish they were.

Were you always this hateful?

(March 24, 2014 at 8:49 pm)Heywood Wrote:

(March 24, 2014 at 8:36 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Why state in an atheist forum that you are observing anti-religious undertones then? What did you fucking expect us to say, especially when you not only missed the nail but dropped the hammer on your toe? You're not upset? Then your words are worthless garbage.

I expected you guys to take Minimalist's view. He's not satisfied with undertones. He wants Tyson to come right out and say it.

I pointed it out because I saw the undertones and recognize there is something else on the agenda. The poster who claimed the show was about making people excited by science is wrong because it is obvious there is a second motive.

Listen to me. If you go thru life and don't recognize when you are being fed an agenda....you're doing it wrong. This is true even if you agree with what you are being fed. Its okay to acknowledge there are anti-religious undertones in the series. Its not okay to not see those undertones or pretend they don't exist.

Science doesn't have an agenda; it just IS, and it's exciting. If you want to discuss being fed an agenda your entire life, then try growing up in a Mormon family like I did.

You're trying to get us to chase phantoms that don't exist, and if you expect us to take your poorly-formulated bait then you obviously don't know many atheists.

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If there was no religion, then there would be no need to call oneself an atheist. There's just reality and fiction.

(March 24, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Science doesn't have an agenda; it just IS, and it's exciting. If you want to discuss being fed an agenda your entire life, then try growing up in a Mormon family like I did.

You are conflating a television show with science. They are not the same thing.

(March 24, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Heywood Wrote:

(March 24, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Science doesn't have an agenda; it just IS, and it's exciting. If you want to discuss being fed an agenda your entire life, then try growing up in a Mormon family like I did.

You are conflating a television show with science. They are not the same thing.

No, but the TV show promotes science. Religion has no place on a show like that, so there is no space in its program to be anti-religious.

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If anything, it's anti-ignorance.

(March 24, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Heywood Wrote: You are conflating a television show with science. They are not the same thing.

You conflate your religion with reality. They are not the same thing.

(March 24, 2014 at 9:36 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: No, but the TV show promotes science. Religion has no place on a show like that, so there is no space in its program to be anti-religious.

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If anything, it's anti-ignorance.

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If religion has no place in this show which "promotes science"....why does Tyson keep bringing it up?

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(March 24, 2014 at 9:37 pm)Rahul Wrote:

(March 24, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Heywood Wrote: You are conflating a television show with science. They are not the same thing.

You conflate your religion with reality. They are not the same thing.

Perhaps you can point out where I have done that.

I think you just made it up. I have never talked about my religion.

There is a difference between anti-religious and stating things that make the church look bad, or professing that the scientific method produces better results than any other method. Your confirmation bias will allow you to see church-slamming whenever anyone says anything that does not reflect positively on your pre-conceived notion.

Heywood, your profile says "theist". How exactly have you not talked about your religion when you've given so much away in that one word? We may not know your credo, but we know you worship some form of deity. You could be a follower of Odin; you would still be conflating religion with reality.

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The only time Tyson brings up religion is as an attempt for the religious viewers to use what's taught on the show to enhance and complement their beliefs.